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Restoration / Re: Norwood stickers
« on: December 05, 2017, 07:24:53 PM »
Just because they are next door doesn't mean it will be done as the factory did it. You have to decide if you want it done right or just installed.
The most skill and patiance is in removing the old quarters without cutting into other parts such as the brace supports.
Body shops are all about just getting it done and move on.
The last four jobs I took in were butchered by other shops, two of which were self proclaimed restoration shops. It is costly to repair a shop's hackwork. The convenience of a shop being next door should be last on the list of qualifications.

Thanks for the reply's and I did not mean to derail the OP's thread about the paper stickers.

I'm fully aware of what has been said and appreciate the concern, at this point I feel comfortable with the choice I've made. I'll be having one more  talk with the tech on taking things apart and how he plans to do it before I'll leave the car with them. In the end if it is not done correctly and a "Hack" job it's all on me and my fault for choosing them. I know how and what needs to be done but do not have the experience nor the correct equipment to do this work myself

But hey we all learned about those paper stickers, very interesting.

Restoration / Re: Norwood stickers
« on: November 27, 2017, 12:33:22 AM »
Best way to preserve details is to not take it to a body shop. Most shops take no care or interest in doing things “right”. If you like overspray on parts that should not have it, parts lost, work not done as asked, take it to a body shop. Otherwise, find a restoration shop that knows 1st gen Camaros.
Yes correct, that is why I'm trying to do as much as I can myself. But the quarter panels are beyond my skill level so will be farmed out, the shop is right next door to where I work so I can keep a eye on the car.

Restoration / Re: Norwood stickers
« on: November 26, 2017, 01:15:43 AM »
Well that answers my question, I was about to start a thread asking this, just found them on my car.

Related question, I want to keep as much as I can original. So in the process of doing some body work and don't want anything to happen to the stickers. Whats the best way to protect and preserve them? 

Decoding/Numbers / Re: '69 RS Fender date codes
« on: May 17, 2017, 01:21:14 AM »
As promised here the pics of the only stampings I can find on the fenders and seem to be in the right location but not the right stamps. Was replacement sheet metal stamped with codes? Were RS fenders less common so maybe had older date codes to the car build date?

Passenger side

Divers side.

Decoding/Numbers / Re: '69 RS Fender date codes
« on: May 16, 2017, 02:29:21 PM »
Can you post some pics of your dates and where you found them. Trying to do the same on my RS fenders.

Also do 69 RS fenders have a little plastic piece that covers the actuators like 68 RS cars have?

Sorry got sidetracked. I'll post pics of the stamps on my fenders tonight. I took the plastic covers off way back when I got the car so I could work the RS actuators and haven't put them back on yet.

Decoding/Numbers / Re: '69 RS Fender date codes
« on: May 15, 2017, 04:22:36 AM »
That number is probably the rotation / sequence number.
Thanks Kurt. So not the date code, can't see any other numbers in that area. I'll keep looking for them.

Decoding/Numbers / '69 RS Fender date codes
« on: May 14, 2017, 02:48:57 AM »
Most everything on my car is date coded correctly to when the car was built, late Sept 1969. Hoping someone might be able to help in a question I have. After finding out where the date stamp is on the front fenders I looked and I'm really confused, passenger fender is "17" and drivers is "D", there might be a very weak "14" on the drivers also. Those are the clear stamps so what would "D" mean, replacement? I think the car at some point was in a fender bender, the drivers fender is rippled on the inside and heavily bondo'd on the outside. And the passenger fender should be maybe a "217" for the build date of the car late Sept. Any idea's?

Also looking at things, seen this tonight on the drivers side fender extension inside, does it mean anything?

Restoration / Re: Interior restoration
« on: September 01, 2016, 01:19:10 AM »
Got home tonight and went right to the shop. My carpet is split and has the Velcro in front of the console, and is missing the binding in front of the front seat track bolts. So now I'm sure when I pull it out I'll find a date code tag that is correct. Unfortunately it's not in good enough shape to just clean and put back, needs to be replaced.

Some dirty Velcro.

Restoration / Re: Interior restoration
« on: August 31, 2016, 03:39:53 PM »
Wow what an enlightening thread. All this time I had thought my 09D build '69 RS center console and 4spd car had a cheap carpet put in in the '80's or someone hacked up the original when they reinstalled it. Looked like had not taken the time to unbolt seat brackets and such because of the long slits under the seat tracks in the rear carpet and the split front carpet. Looks like it might be the original carpet after all, be interesting when I take it out to replace it.

Restoration / Re: seatbelt cleaning
« on: August 31, 2016, 02:09:21 PM »
I used a cap full Woolite on mine, same thing soak in gallon bucket of hot water over night, a lite scrub with a brush, rinse off, hang to air dry. I left the buckles on. The reason for the Woolite is it doesn't break down cloth fiber like more aggressive laundry type soaps do.

A cleaned one next to what it looked like before

The same dirty ones after

Original Cars and Details / Re: JohnZ's '69 Z/28
« on: July 20, 2016, 07:49:49 PM »
Awesome car!! Thank you for documenting with all the detail pics, I saved everyone of them for reference as to what original looks like.

Originality / Re: correct concours restoration
« on: April 27, 2016, 07:10:14 PM »
Wow, great pics and useful information on factory painting.

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