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General Discussion / Re: TT for sale FB Illinois
« on: April 14, 2024, 01:32:21 PM »
That is going to make some gorgeous RS/SS BB someday.
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Restoration / Re: Source of blue tinted paint on underside of '67 Los Camaro floor
« on: April 14, 2024, 01:25:39 PM »
Why would someone put a gold trim tag on a blue car? Oh yeah, 3L 4P might be a reason. Time to start looking at upper body areas for original paint blue or gold color.
Was the VIN posted? Look very close to the match up with trim tag date and body number.
Was the VIN posted? Look very close to the match up with trim tag date and body number.
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Originality / Re: Unicorn option help ? D88
« on: April 05, 2024, 12:55:43 PM »
Same car:
https://www.motortrend.com/features/1404-1968-chevrolet-camaro-ss-the-unicorn/
And here is a previous thread with the VIN listed and a nice list of what's incorrect by Ed B.
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1067.0;all
https://www.motortrend.com/features/1404-1968-chevrolet-camaro-ss-the-unicorn/
And here is a previous thread with the VIN listed and a nice list of what's incorrect by Ed B.
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1067.0;all
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Originality / Re: Unicorn option help ? D88
« on: April 04, 2024, 01:47:31 PM »In early 2023, I came across one of these "unicorns" in northeast Philadelphia area in a private holding. It was loaded with options with many of those options appearing to have possibly been either dealer-installed or owner-installed at some point in time because of the numerous flaws that I noticed that could not have been attributed to a factory install. Regrettably, I did not note the build date on the trim tag.
The D-88 stripes and body paint appeared to be a very old lacquer job so possibly (but not plausibly) original? Attached is a photo of the "unicorn" with the front license plate redacted.
Bernie
I believe that car came out of Northern San Diego County quite a few years ago. It was pretty much debunked at the time.
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Originality / Re: 69 RS Z28 Rally Sport emblem question
« on: April 03, 2024, 01:46:54 AM »It's looked like that since it sold at a 2019 GAA auction for $46k.
The drive train does appear to be original.
An original drive train 1969 Z/28 Camaro in this condition, at that price, certainly seems like a bargain today.
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Originality / Re: 69 RS Z28 Rally Sport emblem question
« on: April 02, 2024, 02:53:09 PM »
Seller also claims the interior: "I think for the most part it's original".
Like most Frost Green cars, this one left the factory with a green interior. And now it's black. So there is that.
Like most Frost Green cars, this one left the factory with a green interior. And now it's black. So there is that.
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Originality / Re: 69 RS Z28 Rally Sport emblem question
« on: April 02, 2024, 02:04:00 PM »Understood, thank you. The advertisement for the car (written and within the video) states that the car is a documented RS Z28 and it has all the original - as it left the factory - sheetmental.
That is not what the ad says at all. All it says it original metal, which can mean a lot of things. You added the "as it left the factory" part. This car has a lot of parts changed out from what it came out of the factory with.
It's also a repaint, so all bets are off. Often when cars are repainted the holes get covered and located later, unless the car is undergoing a meticulous restoration, which this one obviously did not get.
Numbers look good to me, and it's probably a nice driver. Anyone remember the asking price in the ad?
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Garage Talk / Re: 1968 Chevy CamaroZ28 for sale
« on: March 27, 2024, 03:57:39 PM »Quote
- Power steering (only 697 Z28s were built with power steering in 1968)
Why do people make up numbers that are not known, and then act like that adds value?
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Restoration / Re: Dash Panel Replacement now the Vin??
« on: March 26, 2024, 02:06:49 PM »
It is perfectly legal to remove and replace the VIN tag during dash restoration. The rivets are not visible, you can use regular rivets or find the proper ones. The only numbers worth grafting are the stamped hidden partial VIN's.
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Decoding/Numbers / Re: - - Special paint 69
« on: March 10, 2024, 03:18:30 PM »Possible this is one of one ?
With over a million option combinations, it's theoretically possible for every one of the 1969 Camaro's built to be a one of one. Factor in an odd color special paint and L78 with a few other options, and it most likely is.
Being one of one doesn't necessarily add value. I see a lot of Marti Reports that try and boil down option combos the get a small "number of" made. It does add the interesting factor though.
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Maintenance / Re: Adjust Steering
« on: March 08, 2024, 03:31:42 PM »
If you are talking about the "over center" adjustment, I believe it's the same. I checked my 1968 chassis service manual and the procedure is similar for vehicles with "regular" steering and the diagrams show a manual box. The procedure for adjusting the worm gear actually looks quite simple, unless you have a tilt column or simulated wood wheel. You don't even have to take the box out for this adjustment in 1968. Just disconnect the pitman arm and measure with a torque wrench.
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General Discussion / 999,999 1969 COPO Camaros discovered by website that wants your money
« on: March 08, 2024, 01:22:31 PM »
I have seen a couple people asking about COPO Camaro's after using this website to decode the VIN.
Sorry guys, they all come back as a possible COPO and the site asks for your money to decode further.
I expect CRG will get more than a few inquires on this.
Sorry guys, they all come back as a possible COPO and the site asks for your money to decode further.
I expect CRG will get more than a few inquires on this.
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Maintenance / Re: Adjust Steering
« on: March 07, 2024, 12:24:30 AM »Thanks, everyone for responding. Now a dummy question, being an old fart, where can I find a chassis service manual to read up on Section 9 for adjusting, and is this some that can be done by dropping the steering sector at rag joint? Just a thought. Thanks.
Just because I like you, I am going to give you section 9 for free.
All you have to do is click this link that was previously provided:
https://www.midweststeering.com/wp-content/uploads/Saginaw-800-PS-Comp.pdf
You can save it to your computer, print it out, or just know is here to refer too.
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Decoding/Numbers / Re: - - Special paint 69
« on: March 04, 2024, 12:44:48 PM »Second ad
I just noticed the "STICK CITY" dealer name under this ad. Pretty cool name for performance dealer.
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Decoding/Numbers / Re: - - Special paint 69
« on: March 02, 2024, 01:16:27 PM »
It's clearly a V and the date is in perfect alignment with the VIN
Probably was an L78 as advertised. Motor rebuilt by 1971 and gears changed by 1972, unless the 1972 ad guessed wrong about the gears.
Wonder what gears are actually inside now?
Probably was an L78 as advertised. Motor rebuilt by 1971 and gears changed by 1972, unless the 1972 ad guessed wrong about the gears.
Wonder what gears are actually inside now?