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Decoding/Numbers / Re: What kinda 1969 Camaro TRIM TAG is this?
« on: July 15, 2018, 08:39:49 PM »
Not a Z/28 or Yenko. Just a 1969 Camaro produced in Caracas, Venezuela

Originality / Re: 1969 camaro 307 1 owner car ?
« on: July 13, 2018, 02:35:56 PM »
OK I see what you mean now. The houndstooth seat covers would have come with molded door panels, so they are most likely not original. Probably a 711 code interior.

Originality / Re: 1969 camaro 307 1 owner car ?
« on: July 13, 2018, 12:51:34 PM »
Dash assist handle would be correct for a hounds tooth interior. Look for code 713 on the trim tag.

I don't think you are going to find anything especially rare or valuable on this car. Looks like it has had the normal things reconditioned over the years, so not a survivor  type car.

As others have said, if the body is pretty solid then 15K is market value. Buy it if you like it. Pass on it if you think you are finding a rare bird and flipping for big profit.

307 car is pretty low HP/desirability engine. You would not hurt the value if you upgraded drive train.

General Discussion / Re: 1968 Z28 for sale on Hemmings
« on: July 04, 2018, 05:29:34 PM »
124378N434684 sold at Mecum 4 years ago $66,960

Seller states under 50,000 original miles but it has the wrong instrument cluster so how can that be?

Blurry engine stamping looks restamped, but hard to tell with such a bad photo. Maybe thats why its blurry.

Lot's of other incorrect items in pictures.

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Caveat Emptor...beware the carefully worded ad
« on: July 04, 2018, 01:24:15 PM »
Interesting re-writing of the description, won't copy it here in it's entirety, but suffice to say the seller is obviously convinced by his own story to justify the non-matching drivetrain.....

It's pretty obvious to an outsider with Camaro knowledge that this guy is delusional about this car. It's probably the story he was told and believed when he bought the car. He has to believe the possibility or admit he was taken, and it's easier for him to believe the story.

I know a guy that keeps on getting scammed on the internet. It happens over and over to him. Everyone has told him he is getting scammed, but he refuses to believe it. He is delusional and thinks that everything will eventually pan out.

Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 ss 350 block on ebay
« on: July 04, 2018, 12:54:04 PM »
The VIN looks like the wrong size font, so it's quite possible it all restamped.

General Discussion / Camaro auction on BaT brings out the folklore.
« on: June 12, 2018, 10:27:52 PM »
A recent Camaro auction on BaT sure brought out a lot of old Camaro stories in the comments section. This one about the factory rep coming out and restamping a 1969 DZ block with a 1968 VIN sounds a bit far fetched, but you never know! Well, Kurt S. might know.

HarryQ  326
My first new car was a 68 Z28, this color, 3.70 rear axle, M22 rock crusher close ratio, manual steering, AM/FM, no console, ordered from the Chevrolet dealer where local Waterford Hills racer Tom Swindell was a salesman. My dad, then with GM, ordered it on his employee discount and, I was about to graduate from college.

Within three thousand miles I had bent two push rods. same cylinder. After the second, the dealer service manager accused me, politely, of over-revving it.

Shortly after my dad told me he was in a meeting sitting next to Jim Musser, then assistant chief engineer for Chevrolet. He relayed the story about my bent pushrods. Jim asked the same question about was I over-revving, and satisfied with my dad’s answer, said he would look into it. My dad called me soon after saying they wanted to look at my engine.

A few days later I got a call from the service manager at the dealership. “We have an engine for your car.” I left it for a couple of days, and when I picked up the car, the service manager told me what I had. It was a 1969-spec DZ302, which had 4-bolt main bearing caps. But the best part owas he told me was that the GM employee who delivered the engine and supervised the swap had brought with him the number dies to stamp in my original VIN on the blank machined area of the block.

I got drafted shortly thereafter, and ended up the remainder of two years after basic training at Aberdeen Proving Ground, with a PFC wage less than my car payment. My wife, who found a teaching job, made enough to allow us to make the payments.

Never ever had a problem with the internals. I added an Addco rear sway bar, and on weekends I enjoyed driving it on twisty paved roads of Southeast Pennsylvania near APG.

I got out of the service and joined a struggling small company in Ann Arbor, with no savings. After 103 thousand miles on that same, likely hand-built motor, the air cleaner stud backed itself out of the carb, the wing nut unscrewed itself, and the stud slipped into one of the cylinders. I didn’t have money to repair it, but I had a buddy who swapped me even for a working 307 4-barrel engine he had pulled out of his 1969 Camaro when he swap in something hotter, and over a weekend we performed the change. My now destroyed one of one 4-bolt main numbers-matching 1968 Z28 went on several thousand miles until I sold it for enough to make the down payment on my next car.

My buddy rebuilt the Z28 motor to put in his boat.

Here is the auction. Ended at $50,500. A nice looking car, but a bit higher than I expected for a suspected restamp.

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Is it legit? 124677L126103
« on: May 24, 2018, 12:51:30 PM »
trim tag date and VIN sequence are OK. Did you check the other hidden VIN by the heater core?

12 bolt codes line up with the 12A date? Any motor or trans?

Loose tags are always questioned, is it a very rusty convertible that needed the tags removed to properly restore?

General Discussion / Re: Typical price value for a 67 convertible.
« on: May 23, 2018, 12:13:59 PM »
Here is the vin tag for this car. Seller would not bring his price down to make a deal.

If you have passed on the car, can you report the price you passed on?

General Discussion / Re: 25 Camaros For Sale at Estate Sale
« on: May 12, 2018, 10:31:54 PM »
I must have run into this Merle guy at some point in the 90's. I used to attend Pomona and Long Beach swap meets all the time. Does anyone remember if he had a regular spot selling at the swap meets?
I do know another guy that bought a car from him and was not so lucky. He didn't know as much about Camaro's as ol' Merle did, lol.
I also used to get up early on publishing day and go get all the Recycler's to look for Camaro's, long before Craigslist. Lost out on a few deals to a guy that showed up with a trailer just before me. Maybe it was him too.

General Discussion / Re: Typical price value for a 67 convertible.
« on: May 10, 2018, 12:41:37 PM »
Don't know the value, but it sure has nice options and colors!

Originality / Re: 1967 Survivor
« on: May 07, 2018, 12:02:00 PM »
CRG should put a note 3 on the interior chart for the 1967 Yellow code 707 interiors stating just that.

(3) Carpet, instrument panel, and steering wheel are gold.

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Mismatched Cowl Vin to motor and gearbox
« on: April 24, 2018, 10:08:31 PM »
GM Australia kept records? Like Canada did?
That w
Thanks for the info so far,

Unfortunately, all GM records for this year (and others)  was apparently destroyed by fire, so I can never know if it left the factory with this combination, though it seems logical that it did.
ould be interesting to see.

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Need help decoding this cowl tag
« on: March 31, 2018, 04:24:26 PM »
From what I read that 4L just started when this car was made.

What that means is there where a few early Z/28's with the code 4P before they broke it down to further define the code.
All 1967 Z's had a 4 code.
Lack of any 4 code means it is a 327 car at this point with a 124 VIN start.

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