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Garage Talk / We got some of the local 67's together this weekend.
« on: December 31, 2018, 06:45:48 PM »
We got some of the local 67's together this weekend.
67 IPCs engine options here are: L48, L35, L78  We let the SS350 hardtop participate too.  We like him..  lol
It was quite a traffic jam this afternoon....  ;)

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Original Cars and Details / Re: 69 low mile Convertible details
« on: December 31, 2018, 06:35:52 PM »
really nice car. nice pictures. thanks for sharing.  :)

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Restoration / Re: Under Hood Insulation 68 SS
« on: December 26, 2018, 02:00:50 AM »
Ok, I tried all the other recommendations, not all would hold securely.  Some popped out over night.
Some seem to hold, but I really don't trust them.

I think I found the definitive solution...
I took a 1/16" vacuum port cap and pushed it over the clip, went most of the way down, but left a little on top.
They must be pushed in forcefully, but these are in FOR GOOD.  Pretty sure I would have to break them to get them out.
These are not going anywhere EVER....    :D

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Restoration / Re: Under Hood Insulation 68 SS
« on: December 23, 2018, 05:36:29 PM »
Off to my shop today to grab some more originals.  Something that should be so easy...  lol :(

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Restoration / Re: Under Hood Insulation 68 SS
« on: December 22, 2018, 11:31:33 PM »
Many of them worked just right - but still have 4 or 5 problem holes.  Even the flat top clips won't stay in place.  :(

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Restoration / Re: Under Hood Insulation 68 SS
« on: December 22, 2018, 09:13:09 PM »
Gonna try this right now.  Thank you...  edit: Mike S, this seems to be working very nicely...   :D

oh... FYI,  I did not have any metric tools, so I used a 1-3/8"  seemed to also work just as well...   lol  :P

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Restoration / Re: Under Hood Insulation 68 SS
« on: December 22, 2018, 08:56:46 PM »
Only 2 held.  This is very frustrating to say the least.
My polite way of saying.... lol   

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Restoration / Re: Under Hood Insulation 68 SS
« on: December 22, 2018, 08:02:58 PM »
I did cut some of the retainer with an exacto knife, made the flairs a little bigger. That seems to be holding at least the first one did. thanks for the help I probably should have tried that right away.

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Restoration / Re: Under Hood Insulation 68 SS
« on: December 22, 2018, 07:19:47 PM »
What did you do about the clips not holding?  I just got my REM pad - -the original clips wound not hold.
this new pad is thicker than the one i got from them 20 years ago. 
Back then the clips were a challenge, but eventually got them all to hold.

I even went and bought a set of the repro CHQ clips, that are advertised as being longer, but they work worse then the originals.  won't grab for even a minute.  For now I have the fat plain ones on - hoping that over time i can switch them one at a time as the pad settles into place.
The color seems a little greener then I remember, but that doesn't bother me.
Any other ideas or recommendations?  anyone modify their original clips in any way?  Duct tape?  lol
thanks.....  J

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Originality / Re: Booster check valves
« on: December 14, 2018, 05:14:05 PM »
No Luck
At one point I was gonna restore all of the boosters and send them on their way.  so....,
Unfortunately I pulled all the check valves, pipes, and hoses - put them in a separate bin.  I never took the manifold vacuum ports either.  :(

Sold off 100's of the various check valves over the years, did not leave the paper tags on them.   :(
Still have a ton - -found 5 or 6 of the #2 right on top.

I have the #1 on my 69 Z11 - it came like that 20 years ago on the original booster.
That's kinda why I don't trust survivor cars so much - If the new owner believed (wrongly) - that his check valve or other part was not the one
everyone expected to see, he would just change it to the desired flavor at the time.

Like the dipsticks, oil plugs, and many other items - the believed "typical norm" seems to change from time to time - even though all versions are technically correct.

I did take 1000s of pictures in the yards. We traveled to many remote areas, most of the pics are buddies bent over picking, goofing off, or HUGE fields of cars. Lots of pics of really rare cars that just weren't salvageable (at the time) OMG  lol ?

So I guess I can't offer any forensic evidence at this time.

But I can tell you that I have seen, and provided parts for -- many Nationally Certified Survivor cars where parts had been changed in the past. - I will never tell..  lol





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Originality / Re: Booster check valves
« on: December 13, 2018, 08:18:19 PM »
Which is exactly what i am saying. Both plants produced other models along side the Camaros.
Even a plant as small as St. Louis which only produced 1 model -- the Corvette. has variations of many items (including check valves)

To say or even believe that every 1st Gen Camaro only used one style check valve is really inconceivable.
But I know what I have seen, I am gonna check my boosters when I have time, I have 20 or so 9204s and 3 or 4 8515s hidden somewhere around the shop. They are all unrestored in "as found" condition - - don't remember if I left the valves and hoses in them or not.

I have a huge bin full of hoses tons of valves attached there - - will look for paper tags to ID them. 
been a little cooler here lately, was too hot up on my 2nd floor to go digging.

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Originality / Re: Booster check valves
« on: December 13, 2018, 01:32:25 AM »
Ones on the Left are all early 60's.  look at the top left - just like #2 but no hole in the center.
The small hose // large Booster hole - are Midyear Corvette Z06. 
67 Camaros could wear any of those others on the left with no questions in my mind.

I have been observing these for some time - was thinking of writing an article for the NCRS one day.
I really am darn positive about these.  - the 80's valves look nothing like any of these. Others as well as the multiple circle style were used into the early 80s)

many vendors made these valves, as well as all the different parts for GM.  Millions of cars- millions of check valves.
lots of versions.  thanks.....




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Originality / Re: Booster check valves
« on: December 07, 2018, 03:04:53 AM »
these are some i just had laying around the house.  The #2 (not shown) is on both my 67 cars. my 69 is wearing a #1.  But many of these others are still correct for those years interchangeably...

Would have had more, but the wife keeps putting the boxes in the garage when i am not looking and i can't find anything anymore.   lol

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Originality / Re: Booster check valves
« on: December 07, 2018, 02:44:07 AM »

Great and interesting but can you show some survivors with those #1 valves! I have not seen one survivor with that type valve and agree 100% with Mike.
I am not talking about survivors, those are always suspect anyways.  I am talking about cars that were crashed back in the day and have been parked and untouched since then.  Those are the yards I went to for 30 years, and where I grabbed and observed all the different examples.  I have 1000's of pictures, bet if i go through the crates (not digital - Fotomat) I could show you.  One of these days sir....   One of these days...  :)

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Originality / Re: Booster check valves
« on: December 06, 2018, 10:05:52 PM »
Handful?  lol  - - - I have shoe boxes full of all of those.  Plenty of those #1s were on the 1969 cars.
And no way can you say that only one version is correct and the only style used.  At least 4 different vendors at that time - - all with slight variations.   Been pulling these from Junk yards for 30 years.  Pretty darn positive about this....   


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