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Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: June 22, 2018, 07:01:56 PM »
Just checked my car, and it's 0319-dated 12 bolt has exactly the same clip as the one Hans pictured, it also appears to have the same stamping (although can't be sure without removing it, was lying on my back with a flashlight....).

"was lying on my back with a flashlight...."   Thanks Tim - the things we do for the hobby!

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Originality / Re: Seat belt buckle dates?
« on: June 18, 2018, 07:58:13 PM »
From my research including discussions with 2 seat belt restorers, only the webbing had a date code label, stamps that appeared on buckles (including D rings and Anchors) were production lot or run numbers and don't decode using any date scheme. It is possible the manufacturers kept records of the date ranges for each buckle/ D ring / anchor run however that information has not been published to my knowledge.

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Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: June 16, 2018, 09:34:32 PM »
This brake line clip is from my shop partner's (PaulOlds) 1968 Z/28 (Norwood, April build). The car was raced extensively by its previous owner so I was surprised to see the clip was still there and hadn't been tossed. The diff was painted at some point along with the clip.



 


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Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: June 15, 2018, 04:13:36 AM »
Hans, Iím reasonably confident based on the evidence that my diff and the rear brake lines had never been apart or serviced and therefore assembly-line original. The blue dyed brake line clip used appears to be one of 4 variants posted here.  Is it possible the diff-specific clip (per yours) and standard in-line brake clips were interchangeably used? Would sure like to see more original examples.


Agree.  I see no reason to believe its not original, especially since the other brake line clips are original.   My best guess, based on #17 on the rear axle cutaway View C for the HD Axle drawing on page  65 of the AIM, is that for whatever reason there was a mid-year production change.  Unfortunately, in the notes block below where the #17 is referenced in the revision block, the actual date of the change is not legible.

Have you figured out yet a way to replicate the translucent blue dye on the brake line clips??

Hans, I havenít tackled the blue dye challenge as yet. Chick did some good trailblazing on this during his 68Z restoration project however I may try some additional techniques. Do you have some ideas?

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Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: June 14, 2018, 01:51:08 PM »
You fellas are getting my interest up.. :)   I'll check mine and post a photo...

Gary

That's the spirit Gary!

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Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: June 14, 2018, 04:58:55 AM »
Lloyd -

I checked the '69 AIM for the rear axle, page 65.  It appears there was a production change to the clip - see note "17".    Unfortunately, the copy quality of the AIM is poor and I can't make out the date when the change happened.   I also checked the '68 AIM, but I couldn't quite make out the clip used but something definitely changed between '68 and '69 as the engineering drawings changed.

So it's very likely the clip on your rear axle is the original production clip which appears to be the same as the other translucent blue brake line clips.

Hans

Hans, Iím reasonably confident based on the evidence that my diff and the rear brake lines had never been apart or serviced and therefore assembly-line original. The blue dyed brake line clip used appears to be one of 4 variants posted here.  Is it possible the diff-specific clip (per yours) and standard in-line brake clips were interchangeably used? Would sure like to see more original examples.

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Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: June 14, 2018, 04:45:13 AM »
Lloyd, here is mine. 12B Norwood SS.

John

Thanks for posting John, your clip appears to be another variant. Green rather than clear zinc or blue (per mine) and and open center. Hmmm.

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Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: June 13, 2018, 04:26:00 PM »
Anyone else have a photo of an original diff clip to post? Would like to see a few more examples to fill out the thread now and for future reference.

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Restoration / Re: Upper A-arm Splash Shields
« on: June 08, 2018, 08:18:29 PM »
if you want ones that are correct, heavy with the cording in them, you have to make them yourself. 
The rubber is available... from restoration supply.

Is restoration supply a company? Do you have any details? Thank you, Joe

Joe, I just placed an order (by telephone) so I can't vouch for the authenticity of the material however here is what you need:

Vendor: Restoration Specialties  http://stores.restorationspecialties.com/
Part #: MAT014-WS  (All Black Rubber; 1/16" Thick Rubber With Fibers Used On Splash Aprons, A-Arms & Wheel Wells; 43" Wide)


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Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: June 07, 2018, 12:38:49 AM »
Great photos Hans, the stamping detail is interesting. This style is the most typical and possibly a standard. Many thanks for posting.

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Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: June 06, 2018, 09:14:04 PM »
I painted mine. The rest of mine were either blue and  i think a small one on subframe was green. What finish should this be

Bill, my research continues however it seems the original finish for the style of clip on your car was either natural steel or clear (silver) zinc.

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Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: June 06, 2018, 01:53:00 PM »
This is on my 03D. I dont remember changing it

Bill, definitely the more popular clip. I assume it was painted at some point as I've not come across examples where they were painted with on diff. 

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Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: June 06, 2018, 01:50:50 PM »
Lloyd,  This is the retainer / clip from my 12B VN Car.

Rick, thanks for posting, it appears very similar to mine, I'm beginning to believe these were frame mount brakeline clips that were used - on occasion.

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Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: June 05, 2018, 09:51:49 PM »
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=14666.0

This is a car Steve Shauger either has or had. It's an 02b car....Joe

I reviewed the linked thread however wasn't able to locate any photos of the brake line clip - where is it shown?

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Originality / Re: Rear Axle Brake Line Clip PN# 3956700
« on: June 05, 2018, 08:31:26 PM »
I'm trying to contact a friend that has a 01B car. Mine should match Hawks but I will check today or tomorrow. My 68 should look like yours but I will check that also. Both of my cars have stock exhaust so seeing them might be difficult.
Isn't JohnZ car from that date? Who has it now?....Joe

Joe, I believe JohnZ's car is a 2D build date however would certainly like to know which brake clip was installed.

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