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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Help Identifying Engine
« on: Today at 12:25:00 AM »
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Forgive my ignorance, but is being a late production a good thing?

No, it was just an observation.

That block was used in 427's ranging from 335 horse power to 435. If you can get the suffix code and partial VIN off the front pad, we can at least tell you what car it originally came out of and what the horse power was. Of course, after 50 years it may no longer be original (and rebuilt at LEAST once), so that may not help. But at least it'll give you an idea of its heritage.

Ed

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Help Identifying Engine
« on: August 15, 2018, 11:05:56 PM »
That's a very late car. A little less than 600 were built after yours!

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Rivets look to be aftermarket hardware store bought.

Original tag and belongs to the car, but it's been off at some point. Probably for body work.

Ed

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General Discussion / Re: 1967 rear spoiler question
« on: August 15, 2018, 07:45:17 PM »
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if you have a rear antenna you did not get a spoiler, regardless of radio ordered.

Completely agree Joey, but ONLY from the factory. Dealers were free to install almost anything you wanted!

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When the 1968 Price Schedule was produced was prior the the Dealer Installed Spoiler was an option.

That's not correct. The "dealer installed" spoiler was available late in the 1967 model year, so by the time the 68's were rolling off the assembly line, they could be ordered from the factory (RPO D80) or added by the dealer (which was called "Extension, Luggage Compartment Lid", Group 12.181, P/N 3916633).

If you ordered an AM radio (RPO U63) with the optional rear mounted antenna (RPO U73), the factory said no, sorry pal, ain't gonna happen! However, dealers would do anything you wanted.

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So if a buyer wanted the dealer installed rear spoiler and also wanted a radio that called for a rear antenna...

There wasn't a radio that "called for a rear antenna". The rear mounted antenna was factory option RPO U73 and had to be purchased separately. And from the factory, it was only available with the AM radio, and, as you stated, NOT with the spoiler. However, as I stated above, dealer installed accessories weren't regulated so they were free to do almost anything you wanted, which included adding a rear antenna and spoiler!)

Ed

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Originality / Re: Witteck Tower Hose Clamps
« on: August 15, 2018, 05:08:20 PM »
You guys are lucky. Here in Southern California, there are VERY few wrecking yards now, and the ones we DO have don't have anything in them older than the 1990's! The California EPA got rid of most of the yards starting back in the 1980's. The ones that are left are the "pull your part" type of yards.

Before that, there used to be some REALLY good yards in Escondido, Oceanside and San Diego where I would go get parts from cars as far back as the 1950's. Boy, I really miss those days.

Ed

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Help Identifying Engine
« on: August 15, 2018, 04:18:29 PM »
Martin, welcome to the site. We don't have very many guys up in Alaska as members!

The 3938512 casting number isn't correct and it's probably 3963512, which, as Bryon stated, isn't rare at all (casing numbers can sometimes be difficult to make out because of casting slag). It was used from October, 1968 through the 1971 model year on all 427 and 454 applications. If you can have the guy take a picture and post it here, we can verify if it really is 3963512, but I suspect it is.

The best reference material on casting numbers is Chevrolet by the Numbers by Alan Colvin (another CRG member). He has several books out with the 1965-1969 edition pertaining to the first generation Camaro.

Ed

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Originality / Re: Witteck Tower Hose Clamps
« on: August 15, 2018, 03:32:52 PM »
Yes, by all means use them. The 1968 and 1969 NCRS judging guide states that "All dated hose clamps should fall within a year prior to vehicle build date", so I would assume the Camaro would be the same.

Ed

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Originality / Re: Witteck Tower Hose Clamps
« on: August 15, 2018, 03:13:18 PM »
They're dated the quarter of the year they were manufactured. In your case, 3/68 means it was manufactured the third quarter of 1968. My car was built the 4th week of May, 1968, and all the original clamps that were still on the car were dated 2/68 (second quarter of 1968).

Ed

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Mild Modifications / Re: Carburator replacement
« on: August 15, 2018, 02:50:06 PM »
Well, you guys got me curious so I started looking through pictures of my car when I first got it home. At that time it had a 6210 on it with the original air cleaner (see pictures attached). As you can see, the engine is filthy (as was the entire engine compartment!), but there aren't any (extra) dents in the air cleaner base for carb clearance. Of course, I can't say the 6210 will work with EVERY air cleaner out there, but I would say that since Holley advertises this carb as a " direct “bolt on” replacement", it should. However, read the INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS!! There are a few notes regarding "reforming" the fuel line and spacers for air cleaners!!

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The air cleaner base in a Corvette wraps DOWN around the carburetor more than for other cars due to the lower hood

Gary, the air cleaner base on my 69 Corvette L36 and the base on my 68 Camaro L89 are a bit different in where the factory indentations are, but the "drop" on both is the same. It appears that any car with an open element air cleaner uses the same basic "drop".

And yes, I agree. Lars is THE MAN when it comes to Q-Jets AND distributors. I had him restore the original Q-Jet and TI distributor on my 69 Corvette L36 and they both run FANTASTIC!!!

Ed

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Mild Modifications / Re: Carburator replacement
« on: August 15, 2018, 01:47:16 PM »
Now that's interesting. I don't remember having to ever modify my air cleaners. But then again, I don't remember if I used ORIGINAL air cleaners or not!

If you need to dent the air cleaner, it would be better to buy a small spacer like THIS ONE ON EBAY. (They make various sizes, so you should be able to find one that works.) NEVER destroy an original part!!!

Ed

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Mild Modifications / Re: Carburator replacement
« on: August 14, 2018, 06:25:51 PM »
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Thanks Ed - I just placed the order for the 6210

I promise you'll LOVE it!!

Ed

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Mild Modifications / Re: Carburator replacement
« on: August 14, 2018, 04:39:12 PM »
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If I understand you right Ed I do not have to modify the fuel line and the throttle control rod.

That's correct Guenther. The 6210 is a direct replacement for the Q-Jet, so no modifications are required.

Ed

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Mild Modifications / Re: Carburator replacement
« on: August 14, 2018, 03:52:20 PM »
Guys, Guenther is from Austria so it may be difficult for him to find someone that can repair/restore his Rochester. However, I agree with everyone that IF POSSIBLE, use the original carburetor. If not, then the HOLLEY 6210 has been around forever and is a direct replacement for all 1960's and early 1970's Q-Jets. I run this same carb on my 1957 327 engine and have even run it on a 396 in the past. It's a GREAT carburetor and all the linkages and lines bolt up with no modifications required.

Ed

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1969 - Orphans / Re: 9N560107?? V1205DZ on eBay
« on: August 13, 2018, 07:26:12 PM »
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Moderators may want to moved this thread to the previous linked posting.

Done and done.

Ed

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General Discussion / Re: 1967 rear spoiler question
« on: August 09, 2018, 02:38:20 PM »
Sorry guys, I was trying to do 5 things at once last night and failed miserably at all of them!! Anyway, yes, I meant AM radio, not AM/FM. I fixed my above post.

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I guess I have a very rare 68 for according to the protect-o-plate it cam with a am/fm radio and the antenna is in the rear.

1. You couldn't get a rear mounted antenna with the AM/FM radio. As you can see from the below 1968 Chevrolet Accessories manual, there wasn't even a part number for it. It’s kind of difficult to install something that doesn’t exist.

2. The POP only shows the radio installed, not the antenna, so it would have had to have been something aftermarket and added after the car left the factory.

Ed


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General Discussion / Re: 1967 rear spoiler question
« on: August 09, 2018, 01:38:43 AM »
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Cars built without spoiler have a rear mounted radio antenna

No, ALL cars with radios got a front passenger side fender mounted antenna except for cars that came with the AM radio AND the original buyer opted for the rear mounted antenna.

Ed

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