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Thank you for the information and link. In the link, they say to cut a hole in the inner fender to gain access to the heater core hose connection(s). An obvious shortcut, which I will avoid.
Upon closer inspection, it appears removal, or at least moved somewhat out of the way, of the inner fender is a must. It looks like I'll need is to drill the pop rivets from the A/C hose bracket that is pop riveted to the inner fender. Then, after removal of all inner fender attachment bolts, I think I can just allow the inner fender to fall out and away from the engine compartment, and to rest on the top of the front right tire, while I work to remove the hoses from the core. Does this sound about right?
 

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Maintenance / 1969 heater core removal w/ factory Air Conditioning...
« on: October 15, 2013, 08:27:44 PM »
Wow, that lower water hose connected to the heater core on my 1969 Camaro with air conditioning looks like a real beast to get to... I was hoping not to have to remove the inner fender.
Could someone take a look at the service manual to see if the procedure requires inner fender removal ?  Or, if anyone has tackled this fun (not !) job let me know any hints, or shortcuts/suggestions.  Other than the lower hose, the remainder of the project does not look too bad......or, am I kidding myself ?
 ???   

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Originality / Re: N66 wheel paint colors
« on: November 04, 2012, 02:34:21 PM »
Thanks George, the pics are worth 1000 words. The pie shaped "pockets" are certainly not black.
Here's a few more pics I've found....

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Originality / Re: N66 wheel paint colors
« on: November 04, 2012, 12:38:46 AM »
Anyone have additional pictures of N66 "SS" wheels as originally released production from the factory ?

Trying to obtain evidence or documentation of the correct factory paint colors for the wheel.

Repros are available, but the " slice of pie " shaped sections of the wheel on these repros are painted black, which I believe is not accurate to what was originally done at the factory. 
 
Jerry's 4th Edition page 179 shows the wheel,  but the pictures are black and whites.

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Originality / Re: N66 wheel paint colors
« on: November 02, 2012, 07:43:31 PM »
Beautiful car!  Thanks for the reply. I found this image of what looks to be a correct, vintage, N66.
 

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Originality / Re: N66 wheel paint colors
« on: October 31, 2012, 10:42:21 PM »
Looks like you did not receive any replies to your N66 wheel inquiry. A search of the site for answers to the N66 wheel colors question did not prove fruitful.

Does anyone have input or, better yet , pictures, of a factory finished N66 "SS" wheel, or a link to this information?

I believe the 5 raised "spokes' portion of the wheel was argent silver, and the "pie shaped" recessed sections (with the small slots and the holes for the wheel studs) was painted a shade of gray. Confirmation or correction to this statement would be helpful.

Any help is appreciated.

   

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General Discussion / Quality of restoration parts...
« on: March 14, 2012, 09:51:06 PM »
Over the past several months, I've been purchasing a variety of 1st gen Camaro parts from various vendors, and my experiences with the quality of parts and the treatment I've received, particularly when something is not right with the parts I've ordered, has varied widely.
I can say without hesitation, that for maximum satifaction, highest parts quality, speed of processing and delivery, and best website, the top honors go to......

Heartbeat City.

Check 'em out!

Thanks... ;) 

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General Discussion / Re: 1969 dated spark plug wires date format..
« on: February 24, 2012, 02:35:54 PM »
Thanks John,

Please see the picture of the dated spark plug wire set I just received. As you can see, the wires use a script of one hyphen format of 1Q - 69. I contacted the vendor that I had purchased these from, they say they contacted the plug wire manufacturer who said that the format of the script that is printed on the wires is correct and accurate reproduction of what was used by the factory at that time.

The vendor also said that Corvette parts suppliers are the biggest buyer of these dated plug wires from the plug wire manufacturer, and that the Corvette parts suppliers will have it no other way than the one hyphen format script.
Perhaps someone with a good deal of experience with authentic C3 Corvettes as they came from the factory can offer input as to what the factory in Bowling Green used at that time.

However, my informal research on the internet of several other retail vendors of these dated spark plug wires show that they all use the two hyphen format
( 1 - Q - 69 ) in their product description and also in their related charts that show which date coded plug wires to order for various VIN number ranges and/or vehicle build dates. Pictures of their plug wire sets show the two hyphen format.

I would like to use wires that are printed with date code format that is a correct and accurate reproduction of what would have been found on a Camaro leaving the factory back in 1969. 

 

     

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General Discussion / 1969 dated spark plug wires date format..
« on: February 23, 2012, 01:50:01 AM »
Hi,  I am inquiring regarding the Packard dated spark plug wires that were/are being produced.
I have been told that the date code format that is printed on the wires came/comes in one of two ways.

Examples: 1 - Q - 69  or  1Q - 69     Another example  3 - Q - 69    or   3Q - 69

The difference in the two formats is in the use of the hyphen between the first character and the Q.

Were both date formats used for 1969 dated wires at that time? What is the correct date format for reproduction wires that are accurate for restoration?

Thanks in advance for input on the topic...

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General Discussion / Alternator bracket spacer
« on: February 17, 2012, 02:18:21 PM »
Please see picture of spacer located between upper alternator bracket and water pump observed on a 69 Camaro small block.
Does this look correct and was this spacer originally installed at the factory?
 

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Looks like we have continued dissent in this thread on the correct installation location for the "tin plate" or "stainless steel baffle " that is used to reduce hot slot exhaust heat from direct contact with the forward portion of the carb base.
69pace says:  The "tin plate" goes on top of the manifold then the fiber gasket then the carb. 
jeff68 disagrees with 69Pace, jeff says: Intake manifold, then gasket, then heat shield, then carb
JohnZ agrees with jeff, John says: use a stainless steel baffle between the carb baseplate and the carb gasket

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Harmonic Balancer GM part number....
« on: February 11, 2012, 05:21:57 PM »
Thanks again, Ed, I appreciate it. Here's to you, and , an early congrats to you, as you are about to hit the 1500 posts count. Quite an accomplishment !
  :-*

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Harmonic Balancer GM part number....
« on: February 10, 2012, 06:38:29 PM »
OK, Ed, sounds resonable. So, I'm guessing the 4 bbl L48 has a forged crank, and the two barrel L65 has a cast crank?
So just for fun, assuming the balancers can be interchanged between L48 and L65 (assuming these have same crank end dimensions) what symptom would result if the incorrect balancer were installed? Some odd vibration at certain RPM's?
Regarding the alternator brackets, here's the GM part numbers I think are correct per a GM parts counter guy:
Alternator upper bracket   3951500
Alternator lower bracket    3951574
Alternator spacer with tab   3825451
If you can cross check these numbers with your info, I will toast you with a "Here's to Ed" while lifting a cold one this evening!
Thank you!
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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Harmonic Balancer GM part number....
« on: February 10, 2012, 05:11:06 PM »
OK, thanks again guys.
Ed, I really appreciate the detail you provide, including the group numbers.
As a side question, what is the basis for the different sized harmonic balancers ? i.e an 8 inch dia balancer for the L48 four barrel engine and and a 6 3/4 inch dia balancer for the 2 barrel version?    I assume there is a difference between the rotating assemblies, and thus a different sized (mass) balancer is required. Perhaps it's the crankshaft used that determines the balancer required ?
Also, not to be overly abusive with asking for help, but GM part numbers for '69 L48 for the following would be very much appreciated:
Alternator upper bracket
Alternator lower bracket
Alternator spacer with tab
Clip for holding Negative battery cable onto the upper alternator bracket
Thank you very much for your assistance.     

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Harmonic Balancer GM part number....
« on: February 10, 2012, 02:46:05 AM »
Thank you gentlemen. I assume this is a 8 inch diameter balancer? I also assume the original (old) GM part number was 3947704, and the new (current)  GM part number is 6272222 ? Also, any good sources to purchase the correct timing chain cover (and it's GM part number) would be great.

I also enjoy Jerry's book, and agree that more attention to the L48 and more color pictures and closeups would be fantastic. Perhaps in his 5th Edition?  ;)

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