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General Discussion / Re: Power Window Motor Rebuild

« on: March 26, 2024, 04:17:23 PM »

 I would  agree with doing it yourself or finding a local alternator rebuild shop to do the motors for you. You probably will be better off taking them the weakest one and get a quote if you don’t want to attempt it yourself. Somebody in your area knows the GUY that does starters and alternators. You may have fewer issues than you think. If you have a 67-9 Camaro that has smooth functioning rear windows,power or manual,it is because  someone totally dissembled them,lubed the tracks,replaced any broken pieces and adjusted. Only a low mileage original car would possibly escape this procedure. You will definitely be removing the rear seat and panels if they are assembled currently. Good luck….more time than dollars on that project.

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General Discussion / Re: Power Window Motor Rebuild

« on: March 26, 2024, 04:57:41 AM »

  I had rebuilt  some years ago. My general opinion is that there are no aftermarket set-ups that are made as well as oem. It is also my opinion that factory power windows are a rare enough option that it should be repaired rather than replaced. Most of the time that I ever tore a motor apart I found it was either junk or not needing a tear down. They were either corroded so bad that they were not usable or just plain worked. I think if I were to do another car I would likely test them before doing anything. Each motor has to be independently tested and every switch. The master switch and harness is where a lot of issues begin. There is not much in tearing apart a motor just for inspection purposes. A simple clean up and lube will generally give peace of mind to a functioning motor and junk ones can be rebuilt with parts of other  makes and models. The difficult part is already handled if you have all the right harness and regulators. When testing the motors just remember there is no positive/negative….you have to reverse the terminals for each direction. A good jump pack is handy for testing.

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General Discussion / Re: Is it A true Copo ? need help and advice in research

« on: March 12, 2024, 03:41:34 AM »

  Are the Camaros getting as bad as the chevelles and mopars? It seems there are WAY more SS malibus out there from 69 up than were ever built. Every other Mopar was a factory drag car or built for NASCAR by Dale Earnhardt’s cousin….lol. Pretty soon you will be able to do a VIN breakdown to prove you are buying the super rare COPO Z10 convertible with 302 cross ram factory air RS delete W/ orange hockey stripes.

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General Discussion / Re: Barrett Jackson

« on: January 31, 2024, 05:33:52 PM »

Yikes! I didn’t even catch the repo trim tag. That is wild to be in that much on a car that as you said is suspect at best. I get that people get caught up in the lights and sounds of the auctions or maybe they just don’t care that it’s not real. But for that amount of money I’d think you would care that it is real. Must be tough having that much money to burn.


  I have been to a few and I have to agree that the moment may bring more than it maybe should. It is almost impossible to tell what a car is or isn't with the camera unless you are already familiar with the vehicle. I have also seen cars that are not perfect but far more correct bring more because they are what they are. It seems with all the parts available that we may see more people just building them again. For the money that pieces and parts is bringing you can justify paying someone to build a repop car. i have never had a problem with a project done nicely,but if it does not have most its original stature...its just a story. I like original stuff probably more than most,but could you justify buying one car for the price of ten because it used to be a rare original? There are certainly bragging rights associated with some of these cars but some days it is the buyer and some days the seller. There is not much doubt that selling a ZL-1 at any price is probably the last time you will own it. That is a very interesting camaro.

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General Discussion / Re: On the hunt

« on: January 23, 2024, 07:58:31 PM »

  I don't believe it will likely be found DMV unless it has a current plate. I was thinking more like other databases that only law enforcement has access to. That is why you hire a licensed investigator because they are bonded in order to protect themself and others from fraudulent behavior. It may be as simple as an insurance company that currently holds a policy on it...We could not ever find it but they can. It was previously brought up to use the investigator but they will likely make you prove your position before agreeing to check it out. I believe in the scenario you suggest it would be the person checking confidential records that would require a reason to do so as much as the person asking. Sorta reminds of a "Rockford Files" episode where Rockford ticked of Dennis every week asking for a new favor.

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General Discussion / Re: On the hunt

« on: January 23, 2024, 06:08:19 PM »

  I just wanted to include the idea of intentions when talking to an investigator. They probably would need a legitimate reason to search for something not owned by the client.

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General Discussion / Re: On the hunt

« on: January 23, 2024, 06:04:14 PM »

  Ok guys,

    I think this can be done. I know it won't be free,but I dont think it would be expensive. I believe if that car is registered in the U.S. you could pay a licensed P.I. to locate it. The information is readily available to law enforcement through the VIN. I do not believe it is legal to track it down for the sake of curiosity but an investigator with a reason...Ie(you have some relevant documentation for the owner) can look it up . I believe it would take about ten minutes with a slow internet connection. If the car can NOT be located in this manner it is because it is no longer registered to be driven or it has been deported. I do not remember how long it takes to go out of system but I believe it is dependent upon the state it was last registered. I may as well say that it is a possibility that someone owns it and saw your posting but is not interested in selling or disclosing it to anyone(We all know people like this...).  If it could be found in this manner I would suggest having the investigator leave them a message with his/her info so the owner could contact them. If they have a 125K car in their garage they probably don't talk to just anyone about it....Good luck

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General Discussion / Re: 1969 driveshafts

« on: January 20, 2024, 01:14:45 AM »

 I wonder what Pontiac did? I saved a 1969 shaft from a 400/400 Firebird and I don’t believe it is offset. I always thought it had something to do with the pinion angle under load,but not certain it would have ever “fixed”  the issue and that is probably why we saw the factory traction bar. It seems any F-body with a big block or a four speed always suffered the can opener effect under the rear seat after the leafs got a little weak. The slapper bars were almost a necessity if you put on drag tires.

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General Discussion / Re: 1969 driveshafts

« on: January 19, 2024, 01:42:14 AM »

Hmmm…
   Interesting because I have heard of this and have looked at all kinds of chassis diagrams on “ How to set up a chassis”. If the 32 degrees was used it was likely due to a dimensional diagram which they did have to redesign the driveshaft to compensate for the power of certain Camaros/novas. The ride height is one variable,the normal spinning at the normal height is another variable,and the third variable would change as the torque vs height changed,which also changes driveshaft angle depending on the amount of torque. We have to remember these are leaf spring cars with no panhard bar so the more torque the more “out of plane”.

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General Discussion / Re: Assessing value of this car.

« on: January 17, 2024, 03:32:13 AM »

Yes it is probably a Z and worth what a non numbers Z is worth. The same way a SS chevelle is worth more than a 307 Malibu. I like to see people getting what their stuff is worth if and when they decide to sell it. Saying that Bitcoin was, is, or will be a good idea is more of a political statement than the one that got deleted. I think it is very difficult to have a conversation about what anything is worth in a capitalistic society without being a little light hearted about it. I also understand the whole silliness of being offended by two party system jokes so I can see why moderators try to keep the peace. I was thinking about selling my car this year, but after seeing what some things like Bitcoin are supposedly worth I like to keep a closer eye on things I enjoy. The laws of physics don’t seem to apply to certain tangible goods the way they apply to Monopoly money. We even hear things like “The guy who wants that car died 20 years ago”. Is there any truth to that? Maybe…but I was not alive in 1934 and I can say for sure that a real steel Henry Ford 1934 flathead Ford 3-window coupe is nothing remotely affordable to me at this point in time. That does not mean I wouldn’t want one…be careful what you sell because prices go up and up.

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General Discussion / Re: COPO for sale in CT.

« on: January 07, 2024, 06:17:02 PM »

  It looks like they should have just left it alone. It was either a race car or an original COPO…..now it is a car that came as a COPO and retains that paperwork.  I will say the pricing is not out of line for a documented car,but it would be nice if it were more complete or as it was raced. I think the correct wheels alone are around 3-4 grand these days..and that is why correct cars bring substantially more when a guy wants original. It’s funny because I still remember my friend selling an original RS X33 for $7000 and we both thought the guy was insane for paying 40 percent higher than new price for it.  The 69’s went crazier than any of them and I don’t think that is going to change.

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General Discussion / Re: Norwood build sheet location

« on: January 07, 2024, 06:01:22 PM »

 I definitely will not tear into interior further at this point. It has all been removed except headliner and I think removing it is not only a waste of time but could damage the original material. I really appreciate the input and I may get back on this car in the near future.

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General Discussion / Re: Norwood build sheet location

« on: January 07, 2024, 12:53:48 AM »

 Thanks guys,
 That sort of makes me think I do not want to drop a nice headliner to find the nothing that likely exists in there. I like all the comments on the subject….many were just plain entertaining. I tend to agree that it is more likely that I will find a leprechaun with a pot of gold than a  67-9 Norwood build sheet,but I thought I would ask. I can always appreciate when someone asks a specific question and it turns into “ My grandma’s neighbor knew a guy whose younger roommate’s sister had a station wagon the same color as the camaro you are referring to”.

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General Discussion / Norwood build sheet location

« on: January 06, 2024, 09:01:33 PM »

   I have been on this site dozens of times looking up part numbers and other info....so initially I just want to say thanks to those maintaining all this useful knowledge. My question currently is about 1969 camaros. On a Norwood car has anyone ever found the build sheet under gas tank? I have literally looked everywhere but there and have never removed headliner. I have also been told that many norwood cars did not necessarily get a build sheet. The car in question is a real X33 that I am trying to get more documentation on.

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General Discussion / Re: Assessing value of this car.

« on: January 06, 2024, 06:20:50 AM »

 I know it’s an older post but I have to satisfy my curiosity. If the car is an original Z it is definitely worth more. My logic would be if the original driveline were missing deduct at least 30 percent. If that were the only parts missing that would make sense. One could easily put a stock non numbers driveline back into it. The problem is usually the non number driveline is gone…the factory,tach,gauges,radio,rear axle(supposedly still there),wheels,correct under hood items…..etc….that is where the 30 percent can easily make 50-60 percent off the value. I would have to think it is worth more as an original Z after comparing what a complete Z is worth compared to a complete X11 car. Of course my opinion is based on the sellers story that it is a Z and it is also what appears to be a rust free car.