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General Discussion / Re: 1969 Z28 08C build question.

« on: September 16, 2008, 11:33:49 PM »

I think that there were no where as many Z28's ordered during the time that our cars were being built because of the end of production and people would have held off for the much anticipated 1970 model.   The rest is history.  Some people say that my motor can not be the original because it was made  May 29th and others say that it could be.  1 to 6 weeks is the norm but there had to be exceptions especially when our cars were made.  All previous owners, and I have talked with them all but one who is thought to be deceased have all said the motor is original. The trans was replaced early in thecars life that is why it is a 1970 muncie and the rear end was changed out inthe 70's because it was beat and had 4.10 gears and during the late 70's theh car was used as a daily driver in California where the car spent 75% of it's life.  The car now has a 1966 12 bolt 3.31 posi.  Thanks for the reply.     

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General Discussion / Re: DZ BLOCK NUMBERS HELP

« on: September 15, 2008, 12:38:57 AM »

My car is a late build so the partial vin should be on the oil filter rough area right??  My engine build date and DZ are on the machined pad where they should be.   Where I  have seen partial vins stamped on the front machined pad are in BIG non factory stampings nukbers 01877, these are not even and look nothing like the factory stampings.  I was told that it is a date code from the machine shop that  did head work on the car.  My partial vin should be bytheoil filter.

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: 69 decklid emblem holes

« on: September 14, 2008, 01:24:48 AM »

It has only one access hole for the spoiler emblem relocate.  Is there a date I can see or what year my lid is for?? thanks

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General Discussion / 1969 Z28 08C build question.

« on: September 14, 2008, 01:21:38 AM »

As new to the site I have been reading and learning more and more.  I read a response to a question last year by Mark,  that another person post with a 08C 69 Z28 build car. He also has many parts for his car that is dated May and June for his 08C build.  I guess it does make sense that production was to end so dealers were not taking as many orders so build numbers were down??? I know that 70 camaros were delayed and that whole story.  So my 08C build car,  which was delivered to the original owner around  August 20th has a May 29th build motor with casting dates 26, 27th of heads, etc.       Does anyone else have a 08A   or 08C  build 69 camaro Z28 or other car with early parts???             I know that 08B did not exist so my car was a early August build to be sold onthe 20th.    I love the site and the information seams endless.  Thanks.

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General Discussion / Re: DZ BLOCK NUMBERS HELP

« on: September 14, 2008, 12:48:35 AM »

Is it nearly impossible to see the partial vin by the oil filter pad any tricks to see it better while in the car. Thanks,  Also is there a certain area in the pad where the number should be?   I keep thinking I see something but it is very hard.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z28 engine build dates and cars build date spread time??

« on: September 11, 2008, 08:59:18 PM »

Also to note I started this thread to find out the time span between engine build and cars build time.    My car is a 08C date on cowl tag,   since 08B never was on a camaro cowl tag my car could have been an early August build, leaving a 2 month gap between engine build and cars build.    The original owner purchased my car at the dealer around the 20th of August 1969.   So you have it,  March 29th engine build to early August cars build.  I have talked with all previous owners over the past few weeks and all say motor is the original, but  trans and rear end is not. The second owner changed out the rear end for better gas mileage and changed carb to a 600 in the late 70's. He used it as a driver at that time in California to boot.  The third owner bought thecar in mid 80's and switched the carb back to original 850 and left the rear axle ratio witch was 3.31.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z28 engine build dates and cars build date spread time??

« on: September 11, 2008, 08:49:58 PM »

Yes I understand, the man who owned the car had reciepts from the dealer for the setup and hood etc he said. I cannot believe what an original crossram setup is worth!!!  20 grand right?  I read that a few times over the past year. I will keep my car as is.   

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Decode my rear axle please?

« on: September 09, 2008, 10:02:15 PM »

Thanks paul

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Decoding/Numbers / Decode my rear axle please?

« on: September 09, 2008, 06:14:28 PM »

PC 1129 G                      K216 casting date,   it is a 12 bolt axle, at first I thought it was a K218, but I was told on the site the 8 must be a 6.    The axle is in my 69 Z28 thanks.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: cowl tag buid date question.

« on: September 09, 2008, 06:06:34 PM »

Thanks, that makes sense that he picked up the car towards the end of the month of August.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z28 engine build dates and cars build date spread time??

« on: September 08, 2008, 05:57:24 PM »

Had my car at a big monthly car show on Sat. I looked over a survivor, early 69 02B build Z28 compared the DZ and build code stampings and they looked pretty exact.  I also was talikng with a person who owns 2 Z28's and he looked over my entire car as well as the stampings on the front pad and they all agrred that they looked original and that a few months time span was OK for the motor to may be original to the car. The Z28 car that was there had an original cross ram setup and fiberglass hood so the alternator braket was different so you could see the stampings easy, mine I just removed the alternator in a few minutes. 

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Decoding/Numbers / cowl tag buid date question.

« on: September 08, 2008, 05:46:12 PM »

My car has a 08C build date on the cowl tag. I was informed on this site that 08B week was skipped.  So does that mean that my 08C car body build started in the second week and not the 3rd???  Did the plant just not produce car bodies during the second week?? Talked with  the original owner yesterday and he remembers buying the ca rin the middle or toward the end of the month of August.  I know the builds dates on the cowls are not exact to the cars build.  Any thoughts just trying to document the cars history as accurate as possible.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z28 engine build dates and cars build date spread time??

« on: September 05, 2008, 11:19:52 PM »

I purchased this car after speaking with the list of owners especialy the original owner to verify the Z28. I was aware that some of the drivetrain was not original and as maybe some parts not original as with any 40 year old car some items can not be original, but better said as "correct" for the car.  The car is simply gorgeous and a high end restoration on a California , all original sheetmetal, car  and very correct.I have never seen such gogeous pans and undersides.  I will give you a call today on your cell and talk about the car and discuss the report. I love the car and do not need an original drivetrain but a correct one will do. Provenance and historical documentation is key to me. The cold valve adjustment worked perfect and the car screams. The stories behind a car that is 40 years old is just as much fun as the car itself and I have gathered many on the Z28.    No disrespect ever, and you are the Z28 Guru and I would like to talk further about my car.     I will give you a call tomarrow when you are back from your travels.   Thanks Jerry, Kindest reguards Capt. Jason.

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: 69 decklid emblem holes

« on: September 05, 2008, 10:52:41 PM »

Thanks Mark, I am sure mistakes could have happened. I was just curious and i am leaving the car as it left the plant.  I am not drilling holes and an emblem looks better withg out it anyway.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z28 engine build dates and cars build date spread time??

« on: September 05, 2008, 02:38:19 AM »

So I was reading some older posts and see that the typical spread is 1 to 6 weeks between engine build and thecars build, BUT there are exceptions and the time frame is not set in stone and that 60 to 90 days could be possible but not the norm. I have talked with all previuos owners of my Z28 and all agree that the engine is the original motor.   My cars build is 08C and the motor  build is May 29th. The block was cast on 26th both heads on 27th and motor build is 29th. Distirb date is Oct. 68 and on. original smog equip is in place. So 10 to 12 weeks or 60 to 90 days can not be ??       Any one else have a car with a longer spread out of the 250,000 camaros built in 1969.  If I did not know my cars history I would not be pushing this and this is a reaearch Forum.