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Research Topics & Reports / Re: 69 decklid emblem holes

« on: September 05, 2008, 01:43:06 AM »

OK here is a question. My car is a 3rd week August 1969 build Z28. I have talked with all previous owners and the car has all original metal and never wrecked so trunk lid is original.  My car does not have a Camaro emblem moved up on the stripes.  My car is a D80 car and has the original heavy torsion bar to keep the trunk lid open with the extra weight of the spoiler. I have a 69 SS350 that I added the spoiler to when I rstored the car soI compared the 2.     My trunk lid on the Z28 has only one opening to get to the nuts  under where the emblem would go on a spoiler D80 car.  Could it be possible that my cars body was built and painted with the wrong trunk lid. Then when they realized they could not get to half the emblem nuts, they just left the emblem off alltogether???      I know the emblem holes were drilled on spoiler cars after the stripes were painted and my car should have the emblem.  Maybe they put a Pontiac deck lid on?? Any thoughts. 

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z28 engine build dates and cars build date spread time??

« on: September 05, 2008, 01:29:57 AM »

The I looks more like a J hard to see it at first still in the car wit a mirror thanks for the help.

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: 69 decklid emblem holes

« on: September 01, 2008, 02:26:20 AM »

My car was a 08C build body order, and talked with the original owner today and he did not think the Z28 had the camaro emblem on rear trunk lid ever. The car was a D80/ spoiler car as  all late Z28 I believe came with the D80 on the cowl tag and Z28 package.  The only holes I see are the ones under the spoiler and those are always there stamped when the lids were made. My car does not have the other holes that were drilled after by the paint shop. All of this info I aquired from CRG.  If my info is wrong please let me know otherwise.    

Did all Z28 camaros have the camaro emblem on the rear deck lid??  

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z28 engine build dates and cars build date spread time??

« on: August 30, 2008, 11:54:22 PM »

Yes , I was using a mirror and I just realized that. Thanks!  as for the I in  the date code,  the right way is    8 ? 4.  should the  Question mark be a letter or number?  It looks like a  l    maybe a l Or a one.   And what date would that make it?   and how would that jive with my May 29th 69  motor build? Thanks

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: 69 decklid emblem holes

« on: August 30, 2008, 10:23:45 PM »

My 69 Z28 with a 08C date code on the cowl tag has one set of holes lower under where the spoiler sits. 99.9% pretty sure my car is all original sheetmetal.  Was wondering why the holes are there and read the thread. I love this site!!

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z28 engine build dates and cars build date spread time??

« on: August 30, 2008, 10:17:32 PM »

Thanks for the alternator info.   

Can you asist on the distributor  decode as well?  here are the numbers   4 I 8  0841111   ??      I was told from that the intake and distributor were sent out to Jerry to get reworked.   

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z28 engine build dates and cars build date spread time??

« on: August 30, 2008, 12:57:55 PM »

well what is the part nmber for the camaros?  I will have to take the alternator off again to get a closer look, the pics I took I can not see the last number that you are talking about. Thanks  It looks like it could be a 7, but I would hav eto take it off again to make sure.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z28 engine build dates and cars build date spread time??

« on: August 29, 2008, 09:15:56 PM »

Here are the numbers off the back of the alternator

110077 554
  9 E 16    12VNEG 

How do you decode the date and model number   Does 9  E  16  means May 16 1969??

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z28 engine build dates and cars build date spread time??

« on: August 29, 2008, 08:06:35 PM »

Hey Jerry I am having trouble loading the pics in the attachments with thge thread,  any suggestions or do you have a direct email I can send photos to?? thanks i have pics of the cowl tag and the numbers on the front pad Thanks!!

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z28 engine build dates and cars build date spread time??

« on: August 29, 2008, 03:13:53 AM »

I will try to get a chance to pull off the alternator and get a good picture of the pad tomarrow Jerry.  I removed all the paint on the pad near the oil filter and looked at it for awhile with a LED light and  also using a mirror at different angles and shades but I can not see any thing sometimes I get a glimpes of an N or poss. a 1 but I really think it is my eyes playing tricks. I do not see anything I will try to get a good pic of the machined pad and the numbers for you to check out.  With the original owner today, Craig Shoemaker, on the phone he reconfermed a few options on the car. It did not have chamber exhaust, but did have the cowl induction, power steering,  console, endura front bumper, he was not sure what a blue light radio was?? I was told from the 3rd owner it had a blue light radio when new. Craig could not remember if it had the rosewood wheel, 40 years ago was awile ago. He is trying to scan some poloroids of the car exterior and interior shots he has of the car when he owned it,  pretty cool!!!!  Thanks for all the help.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z28 casting date on my 12 bolt is Nov 29 1968. Could be cars original rear?

« on: August 28, 2008, 05:51:08 PM »

I see what you mean in the far right colum and it goes by model year for the car not the calender tear. I just looked at the number 8 and it sure does look like an 8 but I guess it could be a 6, but it looks more like an 8. So they did make this PC code axle for 1966???

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z28 casting date on my 12 bolt is Nov 29 1968. Could be cars original rear?

« on: August 28, 2008, 10:52:47 AM »

PC code for  Non - posi Axle was for 12 bolt 69 cars I found the info on this site last week, but i will check the number 9 again, it is easy to read because the axke has non dirt or grime and fresh paint thanks! I will check it again. 

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z28 casting date on my 12 bolt is Nov 29 1968. Could be cars original rear?

« on: August 28, 2008, 12:50:38 AM »

K 21 8   stand for  K being November, 21 the day, and 8 being 1968??

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z28 engine build dates and cars build date spread time??

« on: August 28, 2008, 12:47:30 AM »

The block has one fresh cote of paint on it since the engine build witch was performed 3 years ago. I removed most of the paint and can still  see no numbers, the previous owner tried to find some as well before and after the machine shop worked on the motor, but could not find any and with the motor in the car pretty tough as other members have stated near impossible. I will check other codes as well. The power steering is the quick ratio unit, the intake is correct, the carb is correct as well, but everything in the car is a very high end restored conours level.  The car has all original sheetmetal and pans etc. Caliofornia car most of it's life so all metal is original. Deep gove pulleys and 7 blade fan, radiator is not original but is the 21 inch core 3 rows,  Wher can I find dates on the alternator and water pump?? does smog equipment have dates??                      I was just told by other people who know these cars that as long as the engine casting dates are within a few months time before the cars build sounds right and should be the original motor,  but some people say the norm is 1 to 6 weeks.   So it seems nothing is set in stone and I am not going to pull my engine out and tear it apart. I have plenty of previuos owner docs and pics and history of the car to know what it is and the car has all original metal even original endura front bumper.      I guess case closed and appreciate all the help.                                 

Just for the record the car is a X33 D80 car, Hugger Orange with orange hounds tooth interior, black vinyl top, endura front bumper, power steering, console tach, cowl hood, blue light radio, rosewood wheel, chambered exhaust, black stripes of course.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z28 with no partial vin numbers stamped on block.

« on: August 27, 2008, 03:29:24 AM »

Just a final thought with 20,000 Z28 cars produced in 1969.  With only 600 cars is the database coud there be exceptions 600 is only less than 5% of the run.  Will there ever be a doc. service like Marti reports or PHS in the future? Since pontiacs were built at Norwood at the same time as camaros coud there be Vin records. Just a question that I am sure has been asked time and time again. Thanks for all the imput. Kindest reguards.