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Title: This is a true survivor car. What??????
Post by: lcmc on July 11, 2012, 02:38:05 AM

I hate when all these guys advertise cars as survivors and don't have a clue what one is.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-Z11-SS-RS-?cmd=ViewItem&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D521807977102824637%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26&_trksid=p5197.m1992&item=150854288309

Title: Re: This is a true survivor car. What??????
Post by: x66 714 on July 11, 2012, 03:21:34 AM

Maybe it survived a flood somewhere

Title: Re: This is a true survivor car. What??????
Post by: restore-z28 on July 11, 2012, 04:03:01 AM

I guess it is all in what their perception of a "survivor" car would be. Totally agree Danny this term is used quite loosely these days. 

Title: Re: This is a true survivor car. What??????
Post by: Zee28 on July 11, 2012, 01:45:11 PM

Maybe they meant it survived the restoration.  :D 
 Is it just me or does the deck stamp look fishy?  I have a big block pacer that was built aprox 1 month before this one and the vin is stamped by the oil filter, which where I thought all the Norwood cars built around this time frame were stamped.  Am I wrong about that?

Title: Re: This is a true survivor car. What??????
Post by: joesauer on July 11, 2012, 04:17:43 PM

Oh well.  At least all the EBAY stars twinkle.  Can an all original parts car that goes through a frame off restoration, but with a repaint be considered a survivor?  Or must it be untouched?

Title: Re: This is a true survivor car. What??????
Post by: BULLITT65 on July 11, 2012, 04:31:30 PM

Well the survivor term is used pretty loosely these days, I guess all our cars are survivors to one extent or another.

Title: Re: This is a true survivor car. What??????
Post by: x66 714 on July 11, 2012, 05:05:47 PM

There's a 13k mile original 375hp 69 in this town that has had only spark plugs & tires changed do to age. That's as close to surviving as I can think.

Repainting does not classify as survivor. Repainting engine doesn't either. They should've restored it correctly though. Underside of hood should be black not white & valve covers on as ss396 should be chrome...Joe

Title: Re: This is a true survivor car. What??????
Post by: BULLITT65 on July 11, 2012, 05:45:18 PM

lets see some pictures of that beauty....

Title: Re: This is a true survivor car. What??????
Post by: x66 714 on July 11, 2012, 06:46:41 PM

Bullitt65
Are you referring to this 13k car?...Joe

Title: Re: This is a true survivor car. What??????
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on July 11, 2012, 07:25:11 PM

Quote from: Zee28 on July 11, 2012, 01:45:11 PM

Is it just me or does the deck stamp look fishy?  I have a big block pacer that was built aprox 1 month before this one and the vin is stamped by the oil filter, which where I thought all the Norwood cars built around this time frame were stamped.  Am I wrong about that?

Nope, you're correct, the partial VIN should be by the oil filter.  The engine pad has been restamped, IMO.

Paul

Title: Re: This is a true survivor car. What??????
Post by: BULLITT65 on July 11, 2012, 08:25:24 PM

Yes the the 13k car I would like to see pics of it if possible, or post the website where the car is posted, thanks

Title: Re: This is a true survivor car. What??????
Post by: 69pace on July 11, 2012, 08:53:09 PM

Yeah I wouldn't say its a survivor. Its a restored numbers matching Z-11.
Can't say much for the disco photo slide show effects and bling on the ad either. Just state the facts, post clean clear pictures and let the car sell itself.
Survivor in my book is a car that looks every mile on the odometer she has traveled and then some, un-molested or refreshed.
Well taken care of or au natural paint but never resprayed.
Just my 2 dollars worth of opinion.

Title: Re: This is a true survivor car. What??????
Post by: 69z28302 on July 12, 2012, 12:18:00 AM

I thought most of these were built in late March?

Mike

Title: Re: This is a true survivor car. What??????
Post by: 69pace on July 12, 2012, 02:40:32 AM

Feb 4th was the release date

Title: Re: This is a true survivor car. What??????
Post by: william on July 12, 2012, 01:59:34 PM

Z11 was in production from early February through early May at Norwood; early March through early May at Van Nuys. Approximately 40% were built in March.

Title: Re: This is a true survivor car. What??????
Post by: Charley on July 13, 2012, 02:07:41 AM

Did anyone else notice the smallblock crossmember ?

Title: Re: This is a true survivor car. What??????
Post by: crobjones2 on July 13, 2012, 10:44:12 PM

how about the exhaust manifolds dated to May/June?