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Title: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: scoop on June 26, 2012, 12:15:04 AM
Can John Z and Ed comment on the use of red oxide primer on the interior of the 68 Camaro. I have pictures of my car when it was taken apart for restoration and it had a light coating of red oxide primer or some type of rusty red looking primer under the headliner, around the interior and doors, some traces under the rear package tray and under the dash.  This weekend I watched the talked to the judges at the Camaro Nationals and was told they did not accept any red oxide primer anywhere on the car as they did not use red oxide until 69, and that the primer should be dark gray. Are they correct? We painted everything back the way we found it and want to know if I have to change it to dark gray to be correct. Any help would be greatly appreciated before we complete the restoration.  Thanks for all the help!  Scoop
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: vtfb68 on June 26, 2012, 12:21:58 AM
Scoop,
 Sorry its only Victor. I have pleanty pictures of the same thing in a LA 05C car. If I could post I would.
   VT
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: scoop on June 26, 2012, 12:56:26 AM
Thanks.  I forgot to mention that my car is an 04B Norwood car.
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: bertfam on June 26, 2012, 01:14:18 AM
Scoop, read THIS (http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=4723.0;all) for info on the use of red primer.

Ed
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: scoop on June 26, 2012, 02:38:35 AM
Thanks for the info.  But I am still confused  as to if I can leave the red oxide under my carpet ect.o be correct as that is what was there.  Thanks again
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: x77-69z28 on June 26, 2012, 03:25:29 AM
my 67 is red o xcide inside with yellow overspray.
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: rat pack on June 28, 2012, 02:36:46 AM
People who have this ruddy brown/red oxide color in their 67-68's please post the build date, original exterior color, and build plant as this may have not been done at both plants........Thanks,..............RatPack..............
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Post by: x77-69z28 on June 28, 2012, 05:00:26 AM
my car is 12D BUTTERNUT YELLOW. morwood
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: 68Zproject on June 29, 2012, 06:17:52 PM
05D 68 Z28 British Green.  The whole inside of the car is that red oxide color.
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: 68Zproject on June 29, 2012, 06:20:20 PM


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The reddish color on V1009DZ's pic, is that the factory primer or what?  In Jerry's book he said floor pans could be semi-gloss black, mine were the color of V1009DZ's rear bulkhead.

Yup, that's factory primer.
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: 68Zproject on June 29, 2012, 06:20:54 PM
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=2798.0
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: rat pack on June 29, 2012, 09:37:01 PM
Guys if your car has anything other than light grey or dark grey primer on the interior areas only, please post pictures if you can. So far in the past couple of days I have looked at 7 68's and 3 67's, and none of them have true red oxide primer on the interior areas. However, some do have a brown primer, the same as Larry's (scoop) car did originally. I also looked at the low mile 68 SS350 at the show last weekend and it too has brown primer, not red oxide. Some may refer to this color as red oxide, but it is not the same. I have already seen a pattern forming, but I will not make any conclusions until more cars are looked at and verified. So far there have not been any 67-68 cars with this brown color in any area other than the interior surfaces of the body. Nothing showing on the underside, trunk (excluding the underside of the pkg tray), or exterior areas. Guys that have red cars really need to observe them closely as red body color overspray that is on top of the grey primers will make them look brown or even orange if they have light grey primer.

Any and all help is appreciated. I have researched this heavily for over 5 years, and until I started compiling my info this week because of Larry being persistant at the show I didn't see the pattern forming...................Thanks,..........RatPack.................
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: vtfb68 on June 29, 2012, 11:43:53 PM
ratpack,
 Check your PM.
  VT
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: 68camaroz28 on July 01, 2012, 11:21:06 PM
There was a 68 survivor at Frederick, MD this year with what appeared to be a brown or red oxide primer in the trunk and Keith who has the great looking 68 SS350 car told me his was red oxide.
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: rat pack on July 02, 2012, 02:41:39 AM
I don't have pictures of Keith's car before restoration, but it was probably blrown just like the others including that red car we judged. I took lots of pictures of that one. So far there have not been any with the red oxide primer like what started showing up in 69 and all 2nd gen cars. So far the only cars that have this brown primer are Norwood cars. Attached is a picture of "scoop"s car before restoration.............

my 67 is red o xcide inside with yellow overspray.
Which plant? Please post pictures or email them to me as none of the 67's I have observed have anything other than two shades of grey...................RatPack.................


Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: KurtS on July 02, 2012, 09:17:04 PM
Here's a pic that Jon took of a 68 NOR, built mid-March.
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: 68Zproject on July 02, 2012, 10:05:06 PM
Mine looks like that last picture Kurt put up.
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: rat pack on July 02, 2012, 11:10:21 PM
The pattern so far is this: 68 Norwood cars only, exterior/interior colors did not change this base brown primer color. I have yet to observe any LOS cars, or any 67 NOR cars with anything other than grey.  Would like to see if this shows up in 67 Norwood cars at any time frame. I have pictures of Norwood cars from Jan 67 thru the end of production in July and all have grey primer inside and out. So if you have a Norwood 67, or any LOS 67-68 with this brown primer I would like to hear from you along with pictures to verify it..............Thanks.......RatPack......................
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: vtfb68 on July 02, 2012, 11:54:48 PM
rat pack,
 Pictures were sent to your E-mail.
  VT
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: 68Zproject on July 03, 2012, 05:56:50 PM
Mine's LOS, but I don't think I have any pictures as all I did was change carpets out.  I'll look under the sills for anything.  Other than that it might be a while.
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: noschevys on July 03, 2012, 09:58:47 PM
Hi, I will post pics of my norwood 07c 68.  Keith
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: noschevys on July 04, 2012, 01:06:03 AM
Here are some pics
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Post by: rat pack on July 05, 2012, 02:28:13 AM
rat pack,
 Pictures were sent to your E-mail.
  VT

Victor...check to make sure those pictures went through as I don't have any....

Mine's LOS, but I don't think I have any pictures as all I did was change carpets out.  I'll look under the sills for anything.  Other than that it might be a while.

Probably won't find it under the sills, but pulling the rear seat bottom out would probably work...........also look up under the dash over behind the kick panel area........ Have yet to see a LOS car with this color in 67 or 68................RatPack................
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: vtfb68 on July 06, 2012, 03:54:34 PM
ratpack,
 I re-sent the 68 pictures to your E-mail.
  Victor
Title: Re: Red Oxide primer on interior or 68 Camaros- Jonn Z and Ed Please respond.
Post by: 68camaroz28 on July 06, 2012, 11:27:36 PM
I know pics are pics without seeing in person but looking at Keith's primer to some 69 similar primers (pics I took) I'm not seeing the red vs. brown primer differences as they look about the same. What I'm thinking is maybe the 69's I have looked at including ours is the same primer used on 68's like Keith's.
69 survivor pic
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z117/1-2-b-67L89/68%20Camaro%20Z28/Survivors/100_6827.jpg)
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Post by: TJM68SSRS on March 25, 2015, 10:50:17 PM
68 SS/RS 11D Nor Teal Blue. The interior and trunk of my 68 was covered heavy with brown primer. The heaviest was the back side of the dash. The rest of the interior looked like a combo of all the above photos.