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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: 1968RSZ28 on April 17, 2012, 04:43:04 PM

Title: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on April 17, 2012, 04:43:04 PM
Here's a Z10 up for bids on Ebay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261005071769&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

124379N632247

Paul
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: IZRSSS on April 17, 2012, 06:12:58 PM
Already at $4,500.00. Am I missing something here? Unless that jack label & deck lid is worth that much you've got me. :P ???
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: Boston14 on April 17, 2012, 11:58:37 PM
It sure doesn't look like a worthwhile project to me. Already has a bid over $6,000. After you sink about another$80K into it, you still have a non-numbers matching car (without original engine and transmission) maybe worth $30K to $40K.  But some dishonest buyer will probably scrap the rust and swap all the numbers to another car to have them a "real Z10" to sell ................. what a shame.
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: lcmc on April 18, 2012, 12:44:48 AM
Here's the part that would scare me. The title isn't even in the sellers name. Here's what he says:


I contacted the land owner and found that the last owner had passed away some time ago but the family would look through his old papers and see if the title could be found. I received a call some time later stating that they found it and would send it to me. Now I have the matching title and started checking numbers. The title is not in my name but still in the last owners name. This is how you will receive it if you win so if this is a problem please do not bid.
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: tmodel66 on April 18, 2012, 01:39:36 AM
It's an open title with no liens shouldn't be a problem or should I say it wouldn't be a problem for me in Al. Some states do have weird DOT laws but these older car titles are usually easy to transfer. 
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: lcmc on April 18, 2012, 01:54:11 AM
It's an open title with no liens shouldn't be a problem or should I say it wouldn't be a problem for me in Al. Some states do have weird DOT laws but these older car titles are usually easy to transfer. 

In Ohio all titles have to be notorized when transferred. The seller of the car has to have title in his name then transfer it to the buyer. I would never buy a car from someone without the car being in their name no matter what state. He probably couldn't get title transferred to him since owner is dead.
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: tmodel66 on April 18, 2012, 01:59:28 AM
The executor of the estate could transfer the title. Fill out a few forms, enclose a copy of the death certificate etc. etc.. send it in to the correct department 6 to 8 weeks a new title would be issued.
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: lcmc on April 18, 2012, 02:08:36 AM
The executor of the estate could transfer the title. Fill out a few forms, enclose a copy of the death certificate etc. etc.. send it in to the correct department 6 to 8 weeks a new title would be issued.

Point is even if title was taken care of by the estate it has to be signed over to the current seller then signed over to the new buyer. This has to be notorized in Ohio.
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: digi-69 on April 18, 2012, 05:46:19 PM
Without engine and trans, it is not worth much.
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: CAZ28 on April 18, 2012, 06:11:20 PM
I wouldn't touch it with YOUR money!  ;D
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on April 18, 2012, 11:20:56 PM
But some dishonest buyer will probably scrap the rust and swap all the numbers to another car to have them a "real Z10" to sell ................. what a shame.

Just in case that happens, here's a photo of the cowl tag...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Vn5RK1IDa7w/T49NadCEr2I/AAAAAAAAAVY/GyCAlFafHJY/s800/9N632247_Z10.jpg)

NOR315719  04C  Z10

Paul
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: tom on April 19, 2012, 01:00:01 PM
especially if they already have a car missing the title.
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: z10kl on April 19, 2012, 02:32:51 PM
The title would be the least of my concerns on this one. This car would only be worth fixing if it had the original drivetrain and  it would still be a labor of love. Kinda interesting that it appears to be a 3sp with no console car.
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: Barefoot Dave on April 21, 2012, 09:13:42 PM
Kinda interesting that it appears to be a 3sp with no console car.

Just curious....what makes you think it was a 3 speed?
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: z10kl on April 22, 2012, 12:11:09 AM
I can't see the speedo cable hole in the firewall or the clips. Might be there but I can't see. And the shifter hole doesn't appear
torched.
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: Barefoot Dave on April 22, 2012, 01:06:53 AM
I can't see the speedo cable hole in the firewall or the clips. Might be there but I can't see. And the shifter hole doesn't appear
torched.

Not much left usable on that car at all! Hard to believe how high its already been bid up to on eBay.

I downloaded the pics and looked at them on a big monitor in high res and if you look close you can see the Muncie speedo cable hole (with a grommet) and one clip in the photo that shows the front straight on...the second photo in the ad I think. The shifter hole looks pretty original on the forward, right and back sides but has definitely been cut on the left side like was often done with an aftermarket Hurst shifter. Again, a big monitor was needed to distinguish the edges and the differences.
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: JKZ27 on April 22, 2012, 03:14:10 PM
Could have been a Muncie 3 speed. I think they use the same speedo hole as the 4 speed and the shifter hole is similar to the 67 and 68. I cant see the pics too well in the ad but, the shifter hole looks rectangular originally.

John
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: restore-z28 on April 22, 2012, 05:21:36 PM
Car is current at $6900 with one day to go in the auction, maybe I'm missing something because I just don't see that level of value.
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: IZRSSS on April 22, 2012, 09:44:48 PM
I'd have to say Sonny is correct, as well as everyone else who has suspicions as to why this car is being bid at these ridicules prices. I think its a pretty safe bet that the Vin, cowl tag, & title will show up on another car sooner than later. Might want to keep tabs on this one ??? >:(
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: festival on April 22, 2012, 09:57:53 PM
I agree that will likely be a rebody.
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: Mike S on April 22, 2012, 10:08:03 PM
I agree that will likely be a rebody.

argh!

What next, hidden VIN re-stamps?
 I'm glad I'm not buying any rare vintage car today.

Mike
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: lcmc on April 22, 2012, 11:10:28 PM
If all of the CRG members chipped in a couple bucks we could buy the car and scrap it so a rebody doesn't happen.
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: Sauron327 on April 23, 2012, 12:15:09 AM
If all of the CRG members chipped in a couple bucks we could buy the car and scrap it so a rebody doesn't happen.
You'll have to start another collection to buy all the cars that have had 75% or more of the body replaced too. And then you can scrap those. Because they are out there and among the high dollar ones as well.

If they don't rebody it they will replace all the panels around the TT and hiddens. Which according to some, is not a rebody but a rebuild.
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on April 24, 2012, 03:18:07 AM
Sold 4-23-12 for $8743.31

Paul
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: mickeystoys69RSSS on April 24, 2012, 11:41:07 PM
I have subscribed to this thread so that when my ebay search that I have already established for 1969 Camaro Z10 and this VIN/trim tag shows up. I can flag it as fraudulent.
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: jacmac on April 25, 2012, 12:03:37 AM
I agree with Mike Im glad I already have mine,I would hate to have to go shopping for one!To many fakes & frauds out there! :(
Title: Re: Z10 on Ebay
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on May 14, 2012, 04:48:15 PM
Sold 4-23-12 for $8743.31

Buyer id:  thedocsnow

Paul