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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: 1968RSZ28 on April 17, 2012, 04:43:04 PM
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Here's a Z10 up for bids on Ebay...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261005071769&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
124379N632247
Paul
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Already at $4,500.00. Am I missing something here? Unless that jack label & deck lid is worth that much you've got me. :P ???
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It sure doesn't look like a worthwhile project to me. Already has a bid over $6,000. After you sink about another$80K into it, you still have a non-numbers matching car (without original engine and transmission) maybe worth $30K to $40K. But some dishonest buyer will probably scrap the rust and swap all the numbers to another car to have them a "real Z10" to sell ................. what a shame.
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Here's the part that would scare me. The title isn't even in the sellers name. Here's what he says:
I contacted the land owner and found that the last owner had passed away some time ago but the family would look through his old papers and see if the title could be found. I received a call some time later stating that they found it and would send it to me. Now I have the matching title and started checking numbers. The title is not in my name but still in the last owners name. This is how you will receive it if you win so if this is a problem please do not bid.
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It's an open title with no liens shouldn't be a problem or should I say it wouldn't be a problem for me in Al. Some states do have weird DOT laws but these older car titles are usually easy to transfer.
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It's an open title with no liens shouldn't be a problem or should I say it wouldn't be a problem for me in Al. Some states do have weird DOT laws but these older car titles are usually easy to transfer.
In Ohio all titles have to be notorized when transferred. The seller of the car has to have title in his name then transfer it to the buyer. I would never buy a car from someone without the car being in their name no matter what state. He probably couldn't get title transferred to him since owner is dead.
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The executor of the estate could transfer the title. Fill out a few forms, enclose a copy of the death certificate etc. etc.. send it in to the correct department 6 to 8 weeks a new title would be issued.
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The executor of the estate could transfer the title. Fill out a few forms, enclose a copy of the death certificate etc. etc.. send it in to the correct department 6 to 8 weeks a new title would be issued.
Point is even if title was taken care of by the estate it has to be signed over to the current seller then signed over to the new buyer. This has to be notorized in Ohio.
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Without engine and trans, it is not worth much.
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I wouldn't touch it with YOUR money! ;D
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But some dishonest buyer will probably scrap the rust and swap all the numbers to another car to have them a "real Z10" to sell ................. what a shame.
Just in case that happens, here's a photo of the cowl tag...
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Vn5RK1IDa7w/T49NadCEr2I/AAAAAAAAAVY/GyCAlFafHJY/s800/9N632247_Z10.jpg)
NOR315719 04C Z10
Paul
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especially if they already have a car missing the title.
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The title would be the least of my concerns on this one. This car would only be worth fixing if it had the original drivetrain and it would still be a labor of love. Kinda interesting that it appears to be a 3sp with no console car.
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Kinda interesting that it appears to be a 3sp with no console car.
Just curious....what makes you think it was a 3 speed?
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I can't see the speedo cable hole in the firewall or the clips. Might be there but I can't see. And the shifter hole doesn't appear
torched.
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I can't see the speedo cable hole in the firewall or the clips. Might be there but I can't see. And the shifter hole doesn't appear
torched.
Not much left usable on that car at all! Hard to believe how high its already been bid up to on eBay.
I downloaded the pics and looked at them on a big monitor in high res and if you look close you can see the Muncie speedo cable hole (with a grommet) and one clip in the photo that shows the front straight on...the second photo in the ad I think. The shifter hole looks pretty original on the forward, right and back sides but has definitely been cut on the left side like was often done with an aftermarket Hurst shifter. Again, a big monitor was needed to distinguish the edges and the differences.
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Could have been a Muncie 3 speed. I think they use the same speedo hole as the 4 speed and the shifter hole is similar to the 67 and 68. I cant see the pics too well in the ad but, the shifter hole looks rectangular originally.
John
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Car is current at $6900 with one day to go in the auction, maybe I'm missing something because I just don't see that level of value.
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I'd have to say Sonny is correct, as well as everyone else who has suspicions as to why this car is being bid at these ridicules prices. I think its a pretty safe bet that the Vin, cowl tag, & title will show up on another car sooner than later. Might want to keep tabs on this one ??? >:(
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I agree that will likely be a rebody.
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I agree that will likely be a rebody.
argh!
What next, hidden VIN re-stamps?
I'm glad I'm not buying any rare vintage car today.
Mike
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If all of the CRG members chipped in a couple bucks we could buy the car and scrap it so a rebody doesn't happen.
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If all of the CRG members chipped in a couple bucks we could buy the car and scrap it so a rebody doesn't happen.
You'll have to start another collection to buy all the cars that have had 75% or more of the body replaced too. And then you can scrap those. Because they are out there and among the high dollar ones as well.
If they don't rebody it they will replace all the panels around the TT and hiddens. Which according to some, is not a rebody but a rebuild.
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Sold 4-23-12 for $8743.31
Paul
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I have subscribed to this thread so that when my ebay search that I have already established for 1969 Camaro Z10 and this VIN/trim tag shows up. I can flag it as fraudulent.
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I agree with Mike Im glad I already have mine,I would hate to have to go shopping for one!To many fakes & frauds out there! :(
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Sold 4-23-12 for $8743.31
Buyer id: thedocsnow
Paul