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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: esterobay on March 12, 2012, 06:25:10 PM

Title: Cowl Tag Question
Post by: esterobay on March 12, 2012, 06:25:10 PM

My 69 Coupe has the following on the lower section of the cowl tag under the 71 71 PNT
M21B or M218 can someone advise as to the meaning of this code?

Thanks

Title: Re: Cowl Tag Question
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on March 12, 2012, 07:19:38 PM

Sure, that's the Fisher Body body scheduling code.  You can read more about it here...

http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#CowlTag

Paul

Title: Re: Cowl Tag Question
Post by: esterobay on March 14, 2012, 05:48:13 PM

Thanks Paul.

My car was delivered to City Motor Company Great Falls Montana and sold on 4/2/1969 which is still in business.
I called and they had no records other than they recall the original of the Camaro had passed away.
Do you know how I can obtain options and more importantly how the car was built? Really would like to know if it is a original V8, 4 speed, etc.
VIN is 124379L524511

Bruce

Title: Re: Cowl Tag Question
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on March 14, 2012, 07:00:55 PM

Bruce,

The VIN tells you the car originally had a V8.  Read more here...  http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#VIN

You can use the following chart to see if your car has any of the listed clues which might help narrow down drivetrain options (i.e. small-block V8 vs. big-block V8 determined by original heater box connection location)...

http://www.camaros.org/diffs69.shtml

Also, if you're lucky enough to have the original Protect-O-Plate (POP), it will tell you the powertrain components (engine and carburetor, transmission, and rear axle) as well as selected factory installed options.  Read more here...

http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#POPCodes

What engine/transmission is in it now?

Paul

Title: Re: Cowl Tag Question
Post by: 69Z28-RS on March 14, 2012, 10:39:31 PM

Is there a VIN on the engine?   What is the engine stamped code?

Title: Re: Cowl Tag Question
Post by: esterobay on March 15, 2012, 07:15:41 PM

It has a 350 crate engine with a Muncie M21 Trans and hurst shifter. It was restored as a Z28 Clone
I do have the original POP it has the following info on it.

1234379L524511        R
                                2
TO206HC         PP0211G
S9S12              3

Title: Re: Cowl Tag Question
Post by: Kelley W King on March 15, 2012, 07:42:15 PM

I think HC is a 350 250HP 2 barrel. Others will chime in for a full decode.

Title: Re: Cowl Tag Question
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on March 15, 2012, 07:49:37 PM

Bruce,

Thanks to the POP we know your Camaro's original drivetrain was a 350cid/250hp (L65) small-block V8 mated to a Saginaw 3-speed manual transmission with a 3.36:1, non-positraction, 10 bolt rear axle.

Paul   

Title: Re: Cowl Tag Question
Post by: KurtS on March 16, 2012, 01:11:48 AM

Interesting. That axle was a special order ratio. First 69 PP axle I've ever seen.

Title: Re: Cowl Tag Question
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on March 16, 2012, 01:49:04 AM

Quote from: KurtS on March 16, 2012, 01:11:48 AM

Interesting. That axle was a special order ratio. First 69 PP axle I've ever seen.

Me too!   :D

Paul

Title: Re: Cowl Tag Question
Post by: esterobay on March 16, 2012, 02:40:33 PM

Thanks Guys.

I appreciate all the information nice to know it was allways a V8 and standard shift.
I've ownd the car for a few years and now have it listed for sale on "carsonline".
Sits in the garage with very little time to drive it, but always fun when I take her out for a spin.

Bruce

Title: Re: Cowl Tag Question
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on March 16, 2012, 04:50:19 PM

Here it is...  http://www.cars-on-line.com/53838.html

Good luck with the sale, Bruce.

Paul