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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: RobF on January 19, 2012, 04:09:02 PM
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Did you see the '67 RS Convertible (Butternut Yellow) that went for $80k last night? I don't think it even had the original 327 engine. I understand the BJ effect on prices, but $80k for this car???
I have not paid much attention to Camaro prices in the last few years - do I need to go to the garage and give my neglected '67 a big hug??
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Here it is... http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=418.2&aid=443&pop=0
Paul
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They use the 'restored' term pertty loosely... given a '327/275 hp engine'.... with 'high output' aluminum intake
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It obviously isn't numbers matching... "Date code correct engine" ??? Talk about getting caught up in the atmosphere and getting hosed!
Guess that Ford Sticker was right all along. ;D
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Must have been some sort of time-space anomaly, back to around 2005 or 2006. That underhood shot has me doing face-palms.
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Nice car but I think somebody had been huffing or sniffing the glue.
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My restored 67 SS conv has this attractive color combo.
Hmmm...must be a rare radio in that too.
Sometimes I wonder how many times the so called *winning* buyer is actually a rep of BJ that is bidding to force the price up artificially but in some cases not having a real legit buyer topping it to take it away. Just an observation.
Mike
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My restored 67 SS conv has this attractive color combo.
Hmmm...must be a rare radio in that too.
Sometimes I wonder how many times the so called *winning* buyer is actually a rep of BJ that is bidding to force the price up artificially but in some cases not having a real legit buyer topping it to take it away. Just an observation.
Mike
I highly doubt that due to they would have far too much to lose then gain.
Wow, just cannot believe that car brought that much. Incredible..... Seller is happy I bet:)
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In terms of date correct - I also have a 67 RS Convertible with a 327/210 hp engine. Unless you have an SS with the 350 or 396 or a Z-28, you did not get a VIN number stamped on the block. So basically, you can not have a numbers matching 327 '67 Camaro....only a date correct.
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In terms of date correct - I also have a 67 RS Convertible with a 327/210 hp engine. Unless you have an SS with the 350 or 396 or a Z-28, you did not get a VIN number stamped on the block. So basically, you can not have a numbers matching 327 '67 Camaro....only a date correct.
I would think a car with numbers matching 327/210 backed up with the protecto plate would be numbers matching.
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Yup...my bad...here's the beef;
Drivetrain Partial VIN's
The partial VIN, e.g. 19N512345, was stamped by the vehicle assembly plant on the engine and on the transmission on the engine dress line.
Engines
For most Chevrolets, the partial VIN was stamped on the engine pad near the engine assembly code.
On 1967 Camaros, generally only the Z28 and SS engines had the partial VIN's stamped. In 1967, this code consists of the sixth through the thirteen characters of the full VIN, e.g. 7N123456.
However, it does say "generally" so I agree with RAfbody; If ever there was a good reason to have a POP, this is it.
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Ok everybody - here is your big chance. I'll sell my 1967 Camaro SS350 Convert (Butternut Yellow/Black Int-Top), with a numbers matching PT (3 spd manual), 70k original miles, power disc brakes, wood wheel, fold down rear seat, 4-ply redstripes, restored to original condiition, same owner since 1979 - for $75k OTD, no 10% buyer fees here.
Sounds like a bargain compared to this one!!!
(I was thinking the 67 RS Conv was around a $30-35k car at best, right??)
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In my 20 minutes of watching last night a car was "sold" at 105,000. But knocked off to the back bidder at 103, if I remember right. That tells me either the owner was bidding or a BJ rep as was suggested. Too may games to play!
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I record the show and fast forward to the good stuff.
Wish I could have seen these two...
ZL1 - 410K
L78 - 135K
'54 300SL - 2M - I saw one these at a show in Santa Fe a couple years ago. Couldn't take my eyes off of it. Truly a work of art!
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I do the same thing.....fast forward past all the customs.........
The ZL1 was shown on TV. They spent a lot of time on it....Took a while to get up to the price.
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After watching some of the B-J auction, I have come to the conclusion that there are a lot of people out there that have more money than they know what to do with.
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I like to see their facial expressions afterwards when signing for the vehicle.
Some look very ecstatic about their purchases :D while others have that bewildered ‘What did I just do’ look ??? . You know the kind...like waking up with a hang over and you say to yourself 'oh my...how much did I spend last night'? I guess the atmosphere (cameras, drinks and a little vanity) is setup like that purposely. Sort of like the comps, gambling tables and atmosphere at Atlantic City. Otherwise they show some beautiful cars.
On another note considering the short review time for a potential buyer to look a car over I wonder how many people bid on these cars with little or no knowledge and if they are real or fake (in the cases of authentic) and what recourse, if any, they would have if the latter was discovered at a later time.
Mike
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The ZL1 was on the block for nearly 10 minutes, I taped it.....The car is a rebody that used a lot of NOS Parts. The auction people and the seller disclosed that a GM shell was used in the the restoration..... could of been a little more forthright instead of having to read in between the lines but the guys from Speed missed that key fact all together. Had paperwork from selling dealer but much of the car was not original. Paperwork kept the price strong @ 410K. Car was sold at BJ back in 2006 for 436K.
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When did "Correct" start meaning "wrong"??
Victor
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I assume your commenting on my post...if so, some 67's and all 68's & 69's.
Maybe its just me but when I hear the term; "Period Correct" or plain old "Correct" referencing one of these engines, a major red flag goes up in my book. Most people that have a numbers matching block go out of their way to let prospective buyers know its a "Numbers Matching Block/Drivetrain". But that's just me...everyone has their own opinion/red flag indicators and this is mine. I don't expect everyone to agree. Again, just one guys opinion... :)
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I assume your commenting on my post...if so, some 67's and all 68's & 69's.
Maybe its just me but when I hear the term; "Period Correct" or plain old "Correct" referencing one of these engines, a major red flag goes up in my book. Most people that have a numbers matching block go out of their way to let prospective buyers know its a "Numbers Matching Block/Drivetrain". But that's just me...everyone has their own opinion/red flag indicators and this is mine. I don't expect everyone to agree. Again, just one guys opinion... :)
To me, "Period Correct", "Correct" or "Numbers Matching Block/Drivetrain" all mean the same thing - Not original. The phrase I look for is "Born with Engine/Trans./Rear". There's no mistaking what that means.
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To me, "Period Correct", "Correct" or "Numbers Matching Block/Drivetrain" all mean the same thing - Not original. The phrase I look for is "Born with Engine/Trans./Rear". There's no mistaking what that means.
What he said!
Jimmy V.