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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: canadair on October 07, 2011, 01:56:20 AM

Title: 1969 z28 chrome shifter ball
Post by: canadair on October 07, 2011, 01:56:20 AM
can someone show or tell me the differance between an original shift ball to a repro
Title: Re: 1969 z28 chrome shifter ball
Post by: JoeC on October 07, 2011, 11:50:27 AM
The original ball is chrome plated aluminum and the repops I have seen are chrome plated steel
Title: Re: 1969 z28 chrome shifter ball
Post by: Steve Shauger on October 07, 2011, 01:18:28 PM
As Joe mentioned the repop's are steel and very heavy when compared to the originals.
Title: Re: 1969 z28 chrome shifter ball
Post by: JoeC on October 08, 2011, 02:12:59 AM
I have a few of the original balls and they look more like aluminum then cheap pot metal.
I used to work with alu and pot metal castings and the pot metal was porous and would have weak theads in a tapped hole.

The chrome ball has to be a fairly good alloy because it can't have a porous surface and have a decent chrome finish.
Also the ball has a 3/8-16 tapped hole that has to be strong enough to take the force of a 3/8-16 steel lock nut.

We used to have a lot of trouble with stripped threads on the pot metal castings that had to have tapped holes.
Title: Re: 1969 z28 chrome shifter ball
Post by: canadair on October 10, 2011, 08:11:29 PM
did the original ball have a threaded insert to reduce the thread to 3/8''
Title: Re: 1969 z28 chrome shifter ball
Post by: JoeC on October 11, 2011, 12:12:23 AM
No insert on the ones I have. They tapped the aluminum. Thats one reason why I think they needed to use a pretty good (strong) alloy not a weak low cost material.
Title: Re: 1969 z28 chrome shifter ball
Post by: sixt9x33rs on October 11, 2011, 10:45:19 AM
Are you sure there is a lock nut on the chrome ball?
Title: Re: 1969 z28 chrome shifter ball
Post by: jdv69z on October 11, 2011, 02:17:07 PM
No lock nut on my original ball.

Jimmy V.
Title: Re: 1969 z28 chrome shifter ball
Post by: 1968 Z28 on October 11, 2011, 04:35:46 PM
I thought, although I could be wrong, that the ones with a locknut had the shift pattern engraved on the ball.  That was in order to align the shift pattern to your liking.
Title: Re: 1969 z28 chrome shifter ball
Post by: JoeC on October 11, 2011, 06:49:46 PM
I have seen them with the lock nut and they have a recess on the bottom which I thought was for the lock nut
but I never checked the AIM to see if they show a lock nut.

The chrome ball came with a console and the console has the shift pattern on it.
Title: Re: 1969 z28 chrome shifter ball
Post by: 68camaroz28 on July 08, 2012, 11:44:41 PM
As Joe mentioned the repop's are steel and very heavy when compared to the originals.
In the old days you could take a magnet and know immediately the shift ball was a repro but now the ball is still very heavy vs. an original but its not magnetic as it used to be. They changed something but again that rascal is still very heavy.
Title: Re: 1969 z28 chrome shifter ball
Post by: 69Z28-RS on July 09, 2012, 04:01:09 AM
In the 'old' days..  Why would there be repros?  :)   go down to the dealership and buy one....
Title: Re: 1969 z28 chrome shifter ball
Post by: jeff68 on July 09, 2012, 01:41:55 PM
In the 'old' days..  Why would there be repros?
Because the repro stuff has been around for a long time.
I think you are confusing the 'good old' days with the 'old' days. :)
Title: Re: 1969 z28 chrome shifter ball
Post by: JohnZ on July 09, 2012, 03:05:41 PM
The original ball is a chrome-plated zinc die-casting, is not magnetic, and has no jam nut.
Title: Re: 1969 z28 chrome shifter ball
Post by: 69Z28-RS on July 09, 2012, 05:24:00 PM
In the 'old' days..  Why would there be repros?
Because the repro stuff has been around for a long time.
I think you are confusing the 'good old' days with the 'old' days. :)
You're right..  I WAS thinking of the 'good old days';  I skipped the 'bad old days'...  now I find myself...  in the *confused days'..   :)
Title: Re: 1969 z28 chrome shifter ball
Post by: sixt9x33rs on July 16, 2012, 02:34:36 AM
Thanks John