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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: nwbalddog on June 01, 2011, 04:27:50 PM

Title: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: nwbalddog on June 01, 2011, 04:27:50 PM
I noticed some 1969 have an emblem on the deck lid, while some do not. I currently do not and am also seeing it in assembly manual yet it does not specify if it was standard. I have the rear spoiler. Saw a few strings where this was mentioned, yet could not find my answer.
Thanks
Title: Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: 77thor on June 01, 2011, 04:48:47 PM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the emblem was not used if a spoiler was installed.
Title: Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: bertfam on June 01, 2011, 04:52:19 PM
If the spoiler was factory installed, the trunk lid emblem was repositioned forward 3.27 inches from the standard location. If it was installed by the dealer, they were supposed to reposition it like the factory but most didn't bother.

Ed
Title: Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: IZRSSS on June 01, 2011, 05:43:11 PM
Ed,

Off topic but can you please help me out here...If a rear spoiler was installed by the dealer, did they also install the stiffer torsion rod?

Thanks
Title: Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: bertfam on June 01, 2011, 06:55:33 PM
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...If a rear spoiler was installed by the dealer, did they also install the stiffer torsion rod?

Not usually. Dealers just moved the torsion rod down to the next slot.

See THIS THREAD (http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=141401&highlight=spoiler).

Ed
Title: Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: IZRSSS on June 01, 2011, 07:31:47 PM
The rear spoiler is the early built 69 version (roughly 59" X 4 3/4") and did not come with the thicker torsion rod. The spoiler is original to the car...it was the same color as the car before it was restored (the first and only time). Dealer installed certainly puts me a little more at ease.

I did not have issues with the trunk opening and closing. My problem was with the slightest gust of wind. It took all of about 1min to change the setting. Great advise on the link you provided...deep socket w/extention rod. I used a 6"...

I should have come to you sooner!

Thanks Ed.
Title: Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: KevinW on June 02, 2011, 03:56:27 PM
I have a 10B (1968 build) factory spoiler 69.  it has the short spoiler, thicker torsion bar and emblem moved up. :)
Title: Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: JohnZ on June 02, 2011, 04:05:43 PM
<<Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the emblem was not used if a spoiler was installed.>>

All factory-installed spoiler cars had the rear emblem (re-positioned forward) and a thicker torsion rod. Photo below of my untouched original 02D '69 emblem.
Title: Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: IZRSSS on June 02, 2011, 04:44:04 PM
I think there was a thread somewhere that had a template or measurements for the rear emblem. If anyone know's where it is can you please post the link. Or...post a new one.

And...is the header and deck emblem the same?

Thanks
Title: Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: IZRSSS on June 02, 2011, 04:44:49 PM
I have a 10B (1968 build) factory spoiler 69.  it has the short spoiler, thicker torsion bar and emblem moved up. :)

You guys suck...  ;)
Title: Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: IZRSSS on June 02, 2011, 09:11:35 PM
Did another search and found this information from John;

     Re: 69 decklid emblem holes
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2008, 09:55:02 AM »  

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On a factory spoiler car, the bottom straight edge of the emblem is 1-1/4" forward of the front edge of the spoiler, and the right edge of the "O" in Camaro is 4" from the edge of the lid.


Sorry Ed, I just noticed you post 3.27" from the standard position...
 
 
Title: Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: mark x22 on June 02, 2011, 09:28:34 PM
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f58/markx22/th_1969trunklid.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f58/markx22/?action=view&current=1969trunklid.jpg)
Title: Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: IZRSSS on June 02, 2011, 09:49:37 PM
Thanks Mark, this is the template I remember seeing. Problem is I am a General Contractor and only familiar with the standard measuring system. Is there something out there I can use for decimals?

I think I'll stick to John's measurements. Simple and clear-cut...
Title: Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: mark x22 on June 02, 2011, 10:07:57 PM
4.18 = 4 3/16 .  3.44 = 3 7/16
Title: Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: IZRSSS on June 02, 2011, 10:09:26 PM
Hooowaaa.............Thanks Mark!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: IZRSSS on June 03, 2011, 04:18:34 PM
Is it safe to assume the valance extention was also a dealer installed option completing the D80 pkg? I am guessing since my car has the rear spoiler w/o the thicker torsion rod, and the valance extention w/o the pre-drilled whole for the center brace that both of these were dealer installed.

In addition, is the original VE stamped?
Title: Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: Stingr69 on June 03, 2011, 09:17:35 PM
Is it safe to assume the valance extention was also a dealer installed option completing the D80 pkg? I am guessing since my car has the rear spoiler w/o the thicker torsion rod, and the valance extention w/o the pre-drilled whole for the center brace that both of these were dealer installed.

In addition, is the original VE stamped?

The D80 RPO included the front and rear spoilers and was factory installed. The dealer (or owner) could install anything they wanted, any way they wanted at any time. If you do not have the thicker torsion rod, no extra set of emblem holes and you do not have the hole in the bottom of the front subframe you can be sure you did not have the D80 RPO. Your spoiler, or spoilers were added later.

-Mark.
Title: Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: IZRSSS on June 03, 2011, 09:39:43 PM
Yup...

Is there a stamp on the factory valance extention (front spoiler)? If so, where is it and what does the stamp say? Trying to find out if the front VE is a repop...
Title: Re: 1969 Deck Lid Emblem
Post by: IZRSSS on June 07, 2011, 07:53:55 PM
Yup...

Is there a stamp on the factory valance extention (front spoiler)? If so, where is it and what does the stamp say? Trying to find out if the front VE is a repop...

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