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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Flowjoe on April 08, 2011, 05:09:12 PM

Title: External seat belt "retractors" - KurtS are you out there?
Post by: Flowjoe on April 08, 2011, 05:09:12 PM
See the "retractor" mounted on the belts in these photos (not 1st gen but I've seen them installed on 1st gens):

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Vanagas/Camaro/Camaro%20Seat%20Belts%2004-04-11/CamaroSeatBelts11040406.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Vanagas/Camaro/Camaro%20Seat%20Belts%2004-04-11/CamaroSeatBelts11040405.jpg)

Are these after market or GM items?  If GM, Were they strictly over the counter pieces or could a car be delivered with such devices.  I cannot seem to recall where I have run into these before but I'm thinking it was on shoulder belts.

Any info appreciated
Title: Re: External seat belt "retractors" - KurtS are you out there?
Post by: Flowjoe on April 08, 2011, 05:18:59 PM
Here's a photo of OER's repop:

(https://www.classicindustries.com/images/productimg//9/986068.jpg)

Just trying to figure out original application and path way for these to end up on a car.
Title: Re: External seat belt "retractors" - KurtS are you out there?
Post by: bertfam on April 08, 2011, 05:58:11 PM
Those were dealer installed accessories (P/N 986068) and were also used on the early 67's without retractors if I remember correctly. Kurt can verify that, but you can see them in the top right corner of the below picture.

Ed

Title: Re: External seat belt "retractors" - KurtS are you out there?
Post by: Flowjoe on April 08, 2011, 07:28:01 PM
Those were dealer installed accessories (P/N 986068) and were also used on the early 67's without retractors if I remember correctly. Kurt can verify that, but you can see them in the top right corner of the below picture.

Ed



Knew I'd seen them in literature before but couldn't find the reference - thanks. 

So the only possible OE use (on Camaro) would be early '67s - if Kurt verifies. 
Title: Re: External seat belt "retractors" - KurtS are you out there?
Post by: IZRSSS on April 08, 2011, 07:33:52 PM
Nice article or memorabilia Ed. Were these same items available for 69? If not do you have anything similar for 69 you can post?
Title: Re: External seat belt "retractors" - KurtS are you out there?
Post by: bertfam on April 08, 2011, 08:32:11 PM
I'm not sure about 69 since the P&A only states 64-68. But then again, I don't have a 69 CUSTOM FEATURES (http://www.rickscamaros.com/camaro-custom-feature-accessories-booklet-1969.html) book to check. Maybe someone with a 69 edition can scan it in for you (if the retractors are shown).

Ed
Title: Re: External seat belt "retractors" - KurtS are you out there?
Post by: IZRSSS on April 08, 2011, 11:45:23 PM
Thanks for the link Ed. I think I'll pick one up. It would be interesting to know what else was available for these cars from the dealership.
Title: Re: External seat belt "retractors" - KurtS are you out there?
Post by: sdkar on April 09, 2011, 01:58:55 AM
These were offered in 1967 with the Camaro.  I still have an original Camaro accessories brochure.  Here is a copy of it on the internet.  Also, check out the entire site for all kinds of cool automotive literature, brochures, advertisements, etc.

http://lov2xlr8.no/brochures/chevy/67cass/67cass.html

http://lov2xlr8.no/

Title: Re: External seat belt "retractors" - KurtS are you out there?
Post by: KurtS on April 15, 2011, 01:22:32 AM
Nope, I wasn't out there. Back now. :)

They were dealer accessories - I've pulled several out of other GM cars. Never factory installed.
Nice pic of them here: http://www.camaros.org/options.shtml#ShoulderHarness
Title: Re: External seat belt "retractors" - KurtS are you out there?
Post by: Pacecarjeff on April 15, 2011, 01:53:27 AM
These were standard equipment from the factory in the rear seats of Cadillacs during the mid to late 60's.
They were attached both male portions for the 2 outer backseat belts - likely to prevent them from getting slammed in the doors.

Corvettes used these for a few years too. - pretty common.
Title: Re: External seat belt "retractors" - KurtS are you out there?
Post by: JohnZ on April 15, 2011, 02:38:54 PM
Corvettes used these for a few years too. - pretty common.


That's correct - they were standard equipment on '65 Corvettes (P/N 9776227).