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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: IZRSSS on February 12, 2011, 10:32:21 PM
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AIM isn't clear on the exact location for the front bumper guards. Is it safe to assume the guard should be positioned flushed against the spot I have indicated by the red arrow and then simply use the hole of the lower bracket as the template?
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I'm assuming you have the clamp in place on top of the bumper? If you do it should fit up against the bumper snugly and should be snug against the lower valance.
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That part I'm clear on. My question concerns the guards position left & right
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OK You are talking about the tear drop on the bumper. It should fit close to it but not jammed up.
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There isn't a lot of room for error when you consider where the tear drop is in relationship to the valance light. Makes sense to have it close to the TD...thanks Dan
If anyone can post a head-on pick of theirs I'd appreciate it...
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The lower attaching holes on V31 units were fixture-pierced in the valance panel before it was painted, and an apply fixture was clamped to the center of the bumper bar that established the spacing of both guards from centerline when the guards were assembled to the bumper and valance panel.
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I think you know what's coming next...any clue as to the length of the fixture? I searched for the pierced spots in the valance but evidently these were taken out when the car was painted.
Thanks John
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I checked my 69 NOS front bumper guard kit, instructions show the template from the center line of bumper to the inside edge of the bumper guard is 7 inches.
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I appreciate your measurements but if they are correct I must have the wrong bumper. As you can see by the pic the tear-drop doesn't allow me to place it at 7". The AIM also has the placement of the guards right and left of the tear-drops which is well beyond 7". Or...is it possible the guards straddle the tear-drops?
Thanks Copo!
Any ideas Kurt? Something tells me you might know this one. :)
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Marty look at the page you have referenced. The picture on the right side of the page shows a 13/32 hole for the bolt. It also shows 7.85" from center line of valance panel for center of the hole. Lay it out like that and see what you get.
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It places it right on the tear-drop...the only thing that makes sense would be to straddle it. If you go left it interferes with the plate, if you go right it gets awfully close to the valance light. Its difficult to tell from the AIM because its at an angle but even there it appears to straddle it. ???
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Does the guard cut out that fits on the bumper have a big cut out for the outside and a smaller cut out for the inside. The bumper is thicker on the outside of the tear drop. It's been a while since I worked on one and I might be thinking of another bumper guard.
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Not sure...the B-guards are due in sometime tomarrow. Just trying to get a headstart so I'm not twiddling my thumbs when they arrive.
Strange that you would mention this, I was wondering the same exact thing.
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Marty do you have Jerry's book? It has a couple of pics in it and it shows they cover the tear drops. Look on the back cover at the Green car and on page 35 and 45. Get your BIG magnifying glass out and you can plainly see they cover the tear drop.
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Jerry's books, like the bumper guards are due in any day now. I'll take your word for it. GREAT NEWS DAN...THANKS!
The icing on the cake will be if the inside and outside diameters of the guards are different...
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Marty look at the thread right below this one about the trim/cowl tag. Click the eBay link and look at the front bumper in the picture. It shows it plain as day. They cover the tear drop.
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Sweet...thats the head on shot I was looking for!
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The lower attaching holes on V31 units were fixture-pierced in the valance panel before it was painted
John,
Just wanted to mention there are two flat washers welded in place on the inside of the valance exactly where the lower brackets are attached. Can you tell me if these were done at the factory?
At any rate, the guards are on the car.
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The lower attaching holes on V31 units were fixture-pierced in the valance panel before it was painted
John,
Just wanted to mention there are two flat washers welded in place on the inside of the valance exactly where the lower brackets are attached. Can you tell me if these were done at the factory?
At any rate, the guards are on the car.
My original 02D car has its original factory-installed V31 front bumper guards, and there are no welded-on washers; just the nut and lock washer on the end of each lower bolt, as shown in the Assembly Manual.
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Not a perfect fit but they'll work...
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Nice job Marty! Ready for Southwest Muscle car Nationals?
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I guess...buffed out the rocker moldings today and will set them aside until the show. Seems like scratches appear on these if you look at them the wrong way. Added a few small items that were missing. I'll begin detailing the engine...the underside...buff out the paint...detail the interior...buff and polish exterior chrome & on & on & on. Will begin all this fun stuff about two weeks before the show.
Will you be coming down?
Thanks Jack
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I dont think I can make it this year.I know what you mean about the scratches,once I got the car home from paint I put it back together.Then I started finding small scratches & 2 chips in the paint.Its down at the paint shop now getting those things fixed.Should have it back this week. Now I need to fix the Tach,wiper motor,& radio,they were working before :( Thats why I sold my other cars ones enough for me.I might actually get to drive this thing by the end of the month,its only been about 31yrs!! ;DGood luck say hello to Matt!
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Ohh ;D I mean 22 yrs I drove it once to Matts first Southwest Muscle Car nats. in 89,let me know how it goes!