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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Restoration => Topic started by: 69Z28freak on November 12, 2010, 01:47:50 AM

Title: Correct Body Sill Color
Post by: 69Z28freak on November 12, 2010, 01:47:50 AM
Just curious I have noticed that some 1969 cars have a black sill. I have a 1969 6 cylinder Camaro with trim option Z21. I would like to know if my car should have a black sill or body color, which is white.

Thanks
Title: Re: Correct Body Sill Color
Post by: Sauron327 on November 12, 2010, 02:21:02 AM
http://www.camaros.org/exterior.shtml#BlackoutPaint
Title: Re: Correct Body Sill Color
Post by: 69Z28freak on November 12, 2010, 02:35:07 AM
http://www.camaros.org/exterior.shtml#BlackoutPaint

Yup that is where I got the info from, but I want to be sure I was reading it right. From what I read it says my car should have a black sill. Please correct me if I am wrong. I would hate to read it wrong and end up with the wrong paint.
Title: Re: Correct Body Sill Color
Post by: tmodel66 on November 12, 2010, 01:25:53 PM
Am I missing something? From the one picture I can't see evidence of the Z21 option.
Title: Re: Correct Body Sill Color
Post by: Sauron327 on November 12, 2010, 02:02:37 PM
Sheet here: http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=7279.0
Title: Re: Correct Body Sill Color
Post by: tmodel66 on November 12, 2010, 03:45:31 PM
OK Thanks, but shouldn't it have the rocker molding and wheel opening pin stripes? I might be reading the PDF wrong.
Title: Re: Correct Body Sill Color
Post by: KevinW on November 12, 2010, 03:46:18 PM
Looks like the rocker molding was not put on either after the repaint.  With the Z21 option, you should have both molding and blacked out rocker on a white car.
Title: Re: Correct Body Sill Color
Post by: JohnZ on November 12, 2010, 05:31:43 PM
OK Thanks, but shouldn't it have the rocker molding and wheel opening pin stripes?

Yes - it should have the rocker molding, rocker blackout, and pinstripes.
Title: Re: Correct Body Sill Color
Post by: 69Z28freak on November 13, 2010, 06:15:40 AM
OK Thanks, but shouldn't it have the rocker molding and wheel opening pin stripes?

Yes - it should have the rocker molding, rocker blackout, and pinstripes.

Thanks John that is what I thought. My car does have the Z21 option, but I removed the chrome trim on the rockers because they were thrashed. Also one of my louvers was missing. I will have it all back in place after the mini resto. Is there an exact dimension for where the blackout begins? I just want to make sure that I get it right.

By the way I read the GM plant assembly article and it was awesome. I really enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing that with us.

One more thing. do you think it makes sense to install the front end as a unit like was dome when new or one piece at a time until together.
Title: Re: Correct Body Sill Color
Post by: tom on November 13, 2010, 02:09:50 PM
Photo from carlisle legends judging. Took this for my own reference a couple years back.
Title: Re: Correct Body Sill Color
Post by: Sauron327 on November 13, 2010, 02:35:23 PM
Dave has a pic of an original here, Reply #36: http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=2458.30
Title: Re: Correct Body Sill Color
Post by: JohnZ on November 13, 2010, 04:56:05 PM
One more thing. do you think it makes sense to install the front end as a unit like was dome when new or one piece at a time until together.

Probably depends on how much room you have in your garage/shop - the fully-assembled front clip is pretty bulky. I think most guys do it piecemeal, like most plants did (except Norwood and Van Nuys). Rad support/header/hood latch support/lower valance first, then the fenders (with inner fenders already attached to the outer fenders), then the hood.
Title: Re: Correct Body Sill Color
Post by: Oaklyss on November 13, 2010, 06:44:26 PM
Pics of my original paint SS. Here is how the factory did it:
Right side at fender, lots of goop under the paint:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r206/OAKLYSS/passengerrocker.jpg)
Left side, whoops! missed! (were the line workers drunk or high?):
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r206/OAKLYSS/rockerblackout.jpg)
Left rear. Notice that under the rocker is body color, not black:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r206/OAKLYSS/wellandblackout.jpg)
Right rear rocker:
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r206/OAKLYSS/leftrearrocker.jpg)
Title: Re: Correct Body Sill Color
Post by: 69Z28freak on November 13, 2010, 11:31:50 PM
Dave has a pic of an original here, Reply #36: http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=2458.30

Thanks Scott. Sometimes a picture is worth a thosand words.
Title: Re: Correct Body Sill Color
Post by: 69Z28freak on November 13, 2010, 11:33:29 PM
Photo from carlisle legends judging. Took this for my own reference a couple years back.

Hey Tom that car looks insanely clean. A trailer queen no doubt. I love how clean the cars look when they are done, but who could ever drive a car that nice? Makes me want a driver so I can enjoy it and drive it.
Title: Re: Correct Body Sill Color
Post by: tom on November 14, 2010, 01:26:23 PM
No idea who's car it was. It was on the lift for judging by Jerry and crew at Carlisle. I just took the photo for reference on how my sills should be painted. Yes I presume it does not see much road time.
Title: Re: Correct Body Sill Color
Post by: Oaklyss on November 14, 2010, 04:25:20 PM
I hope it not to late to correct the paint on your body sills!
Title: Re: Correct Body Sill Color
Post by: 69Z28freak on November 14, 2010, 08:14:54 PM
I hope it not to late to correct the paint on your body sills!

It's all good body sill will get painted correctly now that I know the correct way to paint them. I am glad I asked the question, otherwise it would have ended up body color, like it was when I bought it. I wish I had pictures of the car from when it was new, at least before the repaint.