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Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars => 1969 - Orphans => Topic started by: travlinz28 on April 15, 2010, 11:55:46 PM

Title: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block
Post by: travlinz28 on April 15, 2010, 11:55:46 PM
I have it.  It has the original pad stampings and the vin by the oil filter.

Gregg
760-802-9376
Title: Re: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on June 23, 2010, 07:49:32 AM
Listed on Ebay 6-22-10...

Engine pad is stamped:  V0724DZ
Block casting number:  3970010
Block casting date:  E 22 9
Seller id:  travlinz28
Seller location:  Bonsall, CA
Seller contact info:  Gregg @ 760-802-9376

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230489735270&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Paul
Title: Re: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on July 23, 2010, 06:40:29 PM
Sold 6-29-10...

Sale price:  $610.00
Buyer id:  sixtyeightmuscle
Buyer location:  Canada

Paul
Title: Re: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on September 12, 2011, 05:56:35 AM
Relisted 9-9-11...

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/pts/2590771081.html

Paul
Title: Re: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block
Post by: 69Z28freak on September 12, 2011, 07:01:01 PM
I am thinking iof buying this block. Guy is asking $1500.00. Just curious if it is a good deal and a good way to go.
Title: Re: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block
Post by: daves87gn on April 30, 2013, 10:50:18 PM
back on ebay for $3000

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z28-DZ-ENGINE-BLOCK-0724-DZ-E229-/300885424635?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item460e2b39fb&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on April 30, 2013, 11:02:49 PM
New seller information...

Bowtie Classic Auto Part Sales
20053 Industrial Avenue
Langley, BC
V3A 4K6
604-539-0785

Ebay id:  bowtierestorations

Paul
Title: Re: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block
Post by: lynnbilodeau on May 02, 2013, 04:52:33 PM
Would like for Kurt to weigh in on that stamp.  D looks correct for the time frame, but May 22 to July 24 seems like a long time between casting and assembly.  And the V and the 4 seem awful light.

I guess June July were kind of odd normally being "down" months on the supply side.
Title: Re: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block
Post by: 69Z28-RS on May 02, 2013, 05:22:44 PM
I noticed the same thing..  2 months+ after casting before assembly??  when the norm is probably a couple of days?
Title: Re: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block
Post by: lynnbilodeau on May 02, 2013, 07:05:10 PM
The norm for most of the year is like 2 days to a week.  I have seen a couple that were same day!  I had one that was cast the 4th and assembled the 5th of the same month.

However, there seem to be some anomolies in the late May to August 69 time frame.  Normally, it would be a slow down for engine and transmission plants, because the car assembly plants would be tooling up for the new model year.   Norwood just forged ahead because of extended Camaro production.  Almost all the first week of Aug cars got some May dated components, and some even got some April components.   Very few Muncies dated June or July.   I looked at a couple of first week August Z's that were built within a day, and one had a June built motor, the other a very late July motor.

Speaking of dates, I have never seen a June or July of 69 YH ralley wheel.
Title: Re: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block
Post by: lynnbilodeau on May 02, 2013, 11:46:34 PM
Looks familiar now.  I believe Kurt commented on this one on another site.
Title: Re: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on May 04, 2013, 04:20:18 AM
No sale 5-3-13...

Reserve not met = $3000.00

Paul
Title: Re: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block
Post by: KurtS on May 07, 2013, 03:32:51 AM
Pad looks good, btw. :)
Title: Re: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on June 05, 2013, 08:06:32 PM
Relisted 6-5-13...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&vxp=mtr&item=300915951065

Paul
Title: Re: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on July 07, 2013, 08:51:17 PM
No sale 7-5-13...

Reserve not met = $3000.00

Paul
Title: Re: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block
Post by: 69Z28-RS on July 07, 2013, 09:22:10 PM
Pad looks good, btw. :)
1) The 'stamping' itself 'looks' good, but I understand there are 'restampers' who can duplicate original stamps/holders?
2) The original broach marks are not visible in the supplied photo, but all kinds of horizontal and diagonal lines are  very visible, which is suspicious.
3) The engine assembly date of 0724 is more than 2 months after the 0522 cast date, which is very unusual, and also suspicious, in my experience.
4) The VIN provided of 687352 could not be confirmed from the pix (by me), but that VIN corresponds to 18-19 September 1969, which is a day or two after my Z28 was built.   This also raises suspicions as my engine was cast on 0826 and assembled on 0827.

I'd have to see a LOT more information and examine the engine before I'd feel good about this being an original DZ block...
Title: Re: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on August 23, 2013, 09:13:35 PM
Relisted...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z28-DZ-ENGINE-BLOCK-0724-DZ-E229-/300943162481?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item46119c3c71

Paul
Title: Re: 69 Z 19N687352 Original Block
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on August 31, 2013, 10:02:49 PM
No sale 8-31-13...

Reserve not met = $2800.00

Paul