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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bjv69ss on April 03, 2010, 04:29:36 PM

Title: Rear defogger
Post by: Bjv69ss on April 03, 2010, 04:29:36 PM: I got a defogger off eBay that the guy insists is for a 69 Camaro Coupe. The defogger does not even come close to a fitting the sheet metal holes. Here's the part # off the blower houseing P/N 3023590-2-. the separator plate # is 9843811, the grill is 9884678 with an additional # under that one of 9624516. I've looked but have not found what the part # fits. Is there a listing of old part #'s somewhere?
Thanks in advance for any info. Joe
Title: Re: Rear defogger
Post by: 1968 Z28 on April 03, 2010, 05:13:06 PM: Close as I can get with my parts books is somewhere in the 1971 to 1975 time frame for various Chevrolet cars.
Title: Re: Rear defogger
Post by: mark x22 on April 03, 2010, 06:33:14 PM: This is what it should look like . (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f58/markx22/rear%20deffoger%20and%20RS/th_DSC00613.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f58/markx22/rear%20deffoger%20and%20RS/?action=view&current=DSC00613.jpg)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f58/markx22/rear%20deffoger%20and%20RS/th_DSC00476.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f58/markx22/rear%20deffoger%20and%20RS/?action=view&current=DSC00476.jpg)
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(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f58/markx22/rear%20deffoger%20and%20RS/th_DSC00474.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f58/markx22/rear%20deffoger%20and%20RS/?action=view&current=DSC00474.jpg)
Title: Re: Rear defogger
Post by: Bjv69ss on April 03, 2010, 11:52:23 PM: Thanks for the info guys...my defogger looks nothing like the photo. I guess it's going back on eBay and the hunt is on for the right one. I did get the correct switch from the deal...at least! Mark, you got the part # for the right one? Just so I can ask the question if I find one.
Thanks again, Joe
Title: Re: Rear defogger
Post by: 1968 Z28 on April 04, 2010, 02:03:27 AM: My '67-'69 P & A says this:

Grille- #3899746 coupe
Hole trim cover- #3899736
Case- #3015043
Motor-#4918684
Fan- #3016769

The '68 Assembly Manual states that there is a complete case, fan, blower assembly which is part #3014891..... should be the same for the '69 coupe.
Title: Re: Rear defogger
Post by: Bjv69ss on April 04, 2010, 10:54:13 AM: Thanks! Happy Bunny Day!
Title: Re: Rear defogger
Post by: JohnZ on April 04, 2010, 03:01:05 PM: Here's what the original '69 defog blower looks like installed.
Title: Re: Rear defogger
Post by: Dave69x33 on April 09, 2010, 02:03:41 AM: The blower in my '69 RW defogger has an insulation pad between the blower and the package tray sheet metal, contoured to the shape of the blower, and reinforced with a wire mesh as shown. It appears to be original.

Were these insulated pads commonly used or installed originally?
Title: Re: Rear defogger
Post by: JohnZ on April 09, 2010, 04:55:58 PM: Quote from: Dave69x33 on April 09, 2010, 02:03:41 AM
The blower in my '69 RW defogger has an insulation pad between the blower and the package tray sheet metal, contoured to the shape of the blower, and reinforced with a wire mesh as shown. It appears to be original.

Were these insulated pads commonly used or installed originally?

What's your build date? My 02D '69 has never been touched, and doesn't have the insulator; maybe a running change?
Title: Re: Rear defogger
Post by: Dave69x33 on April 10, 2010, 02:02:07 AM: JohnZ,

Good point - I thought about this just after I posted. It's a Norwood 05A (1st week of May) car.

Does anyone else have a mid to late build ’69 with the original RW defog, that may include the installation pad I've show above in this topic? If so, what is your build date?

Maybe someone has a late ’69 revision Chevrolet Dealer service parts book that may show the insulation pad and list a part number?

Since the blower was installed in the “body shell” in the Fisher Body Plant at Norwood, the “C50” Rear Window Defog contents are not shown in the Chevrolet Assembly Plant AIM. Only the dash switch is illustrated on page 193.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Rear defogger
Post by: bertfam on April 10, 2010, 03:55:43 AM: The Sept 68 P&A shows the following:

Group 9.778 Defroster Unit and parts

68 All
69 All (exc Corvair) - Gasket, Motor mounting - 3015030

It also shows a Convertible mounting gasket:

68-69 Chevelle, Camaro (Conv) - Gasket, defog blower - 3929038

Ed
Title: Re: Rear defogger
Post by: 1968 Z28 on April 10, 2010, 03:57:40 AM: Dave.....Is your car a convertible? The parts book shows a blower gasket #3929038 but it is for the convertible only.
Title: Re: Rear defogger
Post by: mark x22 on April 10, 2010, 01:45:04 PM: Could it have anything to do with standard or deluxe interior and extra insulation with that option ?
Title: Re: Rear defogger
Post by: JohnZ on April 10, 2010, 01:53:05 PM: Quote from: mark x22 on April 10, 2010, 01:45:04 PM
Could it have anything to do with standard or deluxe interior and extra insulation with that option ?

My 02D car (photo above) has the deluxe interior and no gasket.
Title: Re: Rear defogger
Post by: GordonOne on April 10, 2010, 06:43:23 PM: my van nuys built is also 02D mine does not have a gasket either.
Title: Re: Rear defogger
Post by: Dave69x33 on April 25, 2010, 01:38:37 AM: Sonet,

Sorry for the late response. My '69 is a 05A Norwood built coupe.

As Ed noted from the 9/1968 edition parts manual, the gasket #3015053 was called out for 69 All except Corvair, and gasket #3929038 for the 68-69 Camaro convertible. Its interesting that JohnZ and GordonOne 02D build cars did not have the gasket. I wonder it did not make into the production assembly until mid year, or if the gasket was only issued as part of a service parts package?

I hope to hear back from others with original RWD, and what their build date and plant is.

Dave
Title: Re: Rear defogger
Post by: luv2sixty9 on April 26, 2010, 05:59:31 PM: Mine is an 11A car and it has the gasket with wire meshing also.
Title: Re: Rear defogger
Post by: plumL78 on April 26, 2010, 09:16:22 PM: My 02D car never had the gasket either
Title: Re: Rear defogger
Post by: Dave69x33 on May 18, 2010, 02:00:01 AM: luv2sixty9,

Interesting...my 05A and your 11A '69s both have the gasket with wire mesh. Hopefully more will respond to narrow down the approximate build month when the wire mesh gasket usage started.

Thanks!