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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: ccargo on November 24, 2008, 06:39:46 PM

Title: A.I.R on 4053 Holley
Post by: ccargo on November 24, 2008, 06:39:46 PM
I've run out of vacum ports on the 68 L78 4053 to hook up the signal hose to the diverter valve. The A.I.R system is inactive but I need somewhere to run the hose?
Title: Re: A.I.R on 4053 Holley
Post by: Steve68 on November 24, 2008, 08:28:50 PM
Tee into the choke pull-off hose with the take-off to the diverter valve plugged with something (since the A.I.R. system is not functional).  Did you remove the vanes inside the pump?

Steve
Title: Re: A.I.R on 4053 Holley
Post by: ccargo on November 25, 2008, 07:39:35 PM
Yes, its devaned :) Is it anything special that should be used? I have some T's left over from the RS setup. I think I saw one that was run all the way back to the intake manifold vacum T"s but I cant find the photo? Most of the ports off the manifold are to large anyway. Another question. Where do you guys get belts? I doubt they make an aftermarket for this application and from experience they wouldnt take the RPM's anyway.

Thanks for the response!
Pat
Title: Re: A.I.R on 4053 Holley
Post by: Steve68 on November 26, 2008, 12:54:21 AM
Nothing special.  Just a plastic one will do.  I would probably plug the port going to the diverter valve with some good quality silicone sealant.  The choke pull-off hose is a common connection for the diverter valve hose tee.  As for the belt.....my system is original and functional and I have always replaced it with the run of the mill auto parts belt.  Try Advance Auto Parts....they have some listed (AP = Air Pump) for cars with and w/o A/C.

Steve
Title: Re: A.I.R on 4053 Holley
Post by: Dave69x33 on April 23, 2009, 01:22:30 AM
I recently gutted my smog pump and plug the diverter valve hose with a 1/4" - 3/8" cut length from a plastic gulf tee.  It worked great. 

On my 69Z, my vacuum advance line is now connected to full manifold vacuum, at the "T-fitting" at the base of the carb where the diverter valve hose was originally connected.  To find a place to put the diverter vacuum line, I plugged it into the "ported" source on the base of the carb.  The modification is all hidden under the cowl induction air cleaner, and easy swapped back for a car show if needed.

I am not sure if this will help your set-up but the attached picture will give you the basic idea.

Good luck with you modification.


Title: Re: A.I.R on 4053 Holley
Post by: ccargo on April 24, 2009, 12:36:49 AM
I see what you've done and it makes sense. I've still not found a T fitting for the vacum at carb and it makes me a little nervous to split that port when its feeding the advance. I'd still like to see a photo of an original setup. Thanks for sharing  :)
Title: Re: A.I.R on 4053 Holley
Post by: JohnZ on April 24, 2009, 03:41:33 PM
Photo below of the original factory setup - note the tee in the choke pull-off diaphragm hose for the diverter valve signal hose, and the "ported" vacuum advance connection to the carb baseplate.
Title: Re: A.I.R on 4053 Holley
Post by: fireZ on April 28, 2009, 04:50:07 PM
Do you need to make any adjustments to timing or idle when the vacum lines are run this way ?
Title: Re: A.I.R on 4053 Holley
Post by: Dave69x33 on April 28, 2009, 11:49:37 PM
No special timing or idle adjustments are needed.  You can readjust them both back to spec; however, I would recommend that you bump up or advance your initial timing (from spec) about 8 - 12 deg BTDC depending on your engine "likes", without pinging under a load.  There are a number of good discussion topics on CRG covering timing.
 
Good luck with your project.