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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: Damon on May 24, 2008, 07:17:46 PM
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Hello,
I recently purchased a 69 Camaro RS. Its all original Hugger Orange/Black Houndstooth. 350 engine 250HP/2 barrel --350 auto trans--1o bolt rear. I purchased it from the original owner. They drove it for 3 or 4 years then parked it and only drove it on weekends rarely thru 1992. Car has not been driven since 1992. It has been garaged. I received the protect o plate and owners manual and plan to search for the build sheet tonight. Where would you search first? Any special tools needed. For options another member, Richard Thomas, has been helping me out. We have found it has factory A/C, front disc brakes, and Black houndstooth interior so far. I verifed the engine number matchs the VIN. T0303HD 19527580
Who is the best source to buy replacement parts?
Have pictures just dont know how to post yet.
Thanks in advance.
Damon
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Question, I am trying to figure out if the remote mounted oil filter was original, optional, dealer add, or aftermarket add on.
Thanks
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WOW what a time capsule.
Please proceed slowly anything you do to alter or refinish anything could diminish the historical integrity as well as diminish the $$ value of the car as a survivor.
One of the best products to clean with out causing more damage is to use www.safestrustremover.com
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I don't recall a remote mounted oil filter being standard on any 60's GM products.
Tom
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I don't remember a front mounted distributor either? Perhaps you've added a few ford photos? ;)
Kris
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I posted the photos of the ford... I was illustrating what the product I recommended will do without harming what is there.
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Hence "Caution Fan" sticker.
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Found what I believe to be the build sheet, it was above the gas tank.
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Found what I believe to be the build sheet, it was above the gas tank.
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Nice find Damon!! That's the broadcast sheet. Your find makes me want to drop my gas tank. Was there any sign of this sheet with the tank installed?
Paul
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Hello,
Thanks for the advice so far. Anyone know how I can decode the build sheet? Who is the best company to buy original parts from?
Paul, no sign of the build sheet until I dropped the tank. Very glad I did as it is extremely fragile. Mine was on the drivers side of the tank. I put it in a clear sleeve and maybe a few copies. This car was built in Van Nuys and I am the 2nd owner so my chances were good. I did pull the back seats first, nothing. So then I proceeded to the gas tank.
Thanks,
Damon
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Paul, no sign of the build sheet until I dropped the tank. Very glad I did as it is extremely fragile. Mine was on the drivers side of the tank. This car was built in Van Nuys and I am the 2nd owner so my chances were good.
Damon -
This is very encouraging as my car is also from Van Nuys and has been in storage since 1980. I looked for signs of the broadcast sheet with the tank in the car but saw nothing sticking out. I'll keep my fingers crossed for now.
Paul
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Who is the best company to buy original parts from?
What are you planning on doing to the car? If the car is as original as it appears, you will want to find good original low wear parts or NOS parts. Most reproduction parts are not 100% authentic when compared to originals and they will detract from the appeal of the car.
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First Gen,
I want to keep it orginal for sure. Items I believe I will need are a fuel tank sending unit/pick up, suspension components (bushings, brake rebuild kits, pads, drums, rotors, leaf springs, tie rods, etc) normal wear items. I dont know what the area behind the rear seat looked like orginally where the capet and speakers are. It dos not need a frame off, so more of a survivior type fix up. Body is great, my concern is drivetrain from sitting all those years.
Paul- SOunds like your car is a lot like mine, been sitting around a while. E-mail me some pics please. damon.rapozo@guaranty.com
Thanks.
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Look what I received in the mail today... ;)
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NICE!!!
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I want to keep it orginal for sure. Items I believe I will need are a fuel tank sending unit/pick up, suspension components (bushings, brake rebuild kits, pads, drums, rotors, leaf springs, tie rods, etc) normal wear items. It dos not need a frame off, so more of a survivior type fix up. Body is great, my concern is drivetrain from sitting all those years.
I have a 65 Chevelle Z16 that was parked in 1982 and not moved or even cranked for over 25 yrs. I bought it in 2001 and finally got around to getting it going this past fall. I drained the engine, removed the valve covers and carb. Then I soaked the valve springs and valve stems with Marvel Mystery Oil, reinstalled the valve covers, and filled the entire crankcrase to the rim with M.M.Oil, as well as pouring some down the intake.
I let it sit for about 2 months, drained it, then ran another load of M.M.Oil through it, installed a new oil filter, fuel filter, NOS gas tank and sending unit (blew out and flushed the fuel line as well), and the rebuilt carb, and it cranked and ran as if it had just been driven yesterday.
On the brakes I opened each bleeder one at a time and used a vacuum pump to draw fresh clean fluid down from the master cylinder through each line until it came out clean with free flow, and all the brakes work great without replacing anything except the master cylinder with an NOS unit with the same date code.
On the suspension I just greased everything. Also drained the rear axel and refilled, and topped off the trans grease. And it all works just fine.
So these old cars will surprise you at how well they hold up if you are very careful about checking each item one by one, and going "easy" on each item as you press it back into service. If you go slow and easy then you should not have to replace as many of the items as you listed above, especially suspension wise. On a time capsule car like you have, you should avoid replacing tie rods, springs, brake drums and the like if there is any possible way to do that, as original finishes, casting no's, etc., should be maintained for the originality of the car. Unless you plan to make it a daily driver (PLEASE SAY NO!!), then all that stuff does not need to be "perfect" and new anyway.
Good luck with your project! - Jeff
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I will emphasize that you need to try the safestrustremover.com until you see what it will do with your own eyes you will never grasp how the product attacks nothing but corrosion, not phospate, paint, rubber, stickers, chrome, aluminum, cadmium, zinc di-chromate, & etc.