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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Restoration => Topic started by: 68Zproject on May 20, 2008, 12:41:12 AM
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This is kind of a two-parter.
1) I bought a 68 GM fan clutch a while back and put the aftermarket fan I had on that. The fan was kind of universal, so it fit this clutch. I didn't really pay attention but I found that the fan clutch spacing, on the fan clutch, was only 3". Does someone make a repo or does GM have a 3 1/4" fan clutch?
#2) I finally found a fan that is an 18" 5 blade fan like the original Z28 fan with a 3 1/4" fan clutch spacing. But it has 5 rivets instead of 4. What could this be for?
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I have had one of those fans also and was told it was a Corvette fan blade. I have looked for 5 years for the correct four rivet fan for my 68 Z but I am not in the position to pay 2000 for the correct set-up. Mine was disguarded years ago for a 7 blade flex fan. I will keep hunting and for now use the 5 rivet blade.
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1960-1970 Corvettes used the clutch with the 3" fan attaching bolt circle; it changed to 3-1/4" in 1971. Eaton still makes new clutches in both the 3" and 3-1/4" bolt circle versions - the 3" version is GM #3916141, don't have the part number handy for the 3-1/4".
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I have looked for 5 years for the correct four rivet fan for my 68 Z but I am not in the position to pay 2000 for the correct set-up. Mine was disguarded years ago for a 7 blade flex fan. I will keep hunting and for now use the 5 rivet blade.
$2000.00 is cheap in today's market. Here's an original '68 Z/28 fan and clutch that recently sold on Ebay for $4218.73...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140228611059&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=004
That's more than the whole car cost new!! ;D
Here's an original '67 Z/28 fan clutch (dated 2-17-67) that recently sold on Ebay for $3419.00...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=260238241703&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=016
Congratulations Charley! :)
Paul
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Well I can forget about ever getting the correct fan for my car unless I come across one at a swap meet and the vendor does not know what it is. I will have to take a copy of that Ebay ad and shows the guys that are kind enough to point out I have the wrong fan on my otherwise completely original Z . I cannot blame the guys that have them for getting as much as they can for them. It guys like me that took our originals off years ago that I can blame for the prices.
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Tell me about it, I bet I could part my car out for more than I could sell it whole!! ;)
Paul
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Oh well I guess that we can both be happy knowing we do own original 68 Z28s even if we are missing our 4 rivet fans.
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Oh well I guess that we can both be happy knowing we do own original 68 Z28s even if we are missing our 4 rivet fans.
I still have the original fan on my '68 Z/28!! :)
I probably should chain the hood down!! :(
Paul
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Chain it down and put a dog on the chain. See Ya Paul
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What's your address Paul?
I will get a picture. The fan I have says 68 H and FRONT on it just like the 4 rivet ones.
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1960-1970 Corvettes used the clutch with the 3" fan attaching bolt circle; it changed to 3-1/4" in 1971. Eaton still makes new clutches in both the 3" and 3-1/4" bolt circle versions - the 3" version is GM #3916141, don't have the part number handy for the 3-1/4".
Do you know what these 3 1/4" vette fans said on them? If you come across the 3 1/4 fan clutch part # I would be very thankful. No hurry.
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What's your address Paul?
::)
The fan I have says 68 H and FRONT on it just like the 4 rivet ones.
I just looked at my fan. I see the "H" and "FRONT" you mentioned stamped on the front side. There is also a "W" stamped on the back of the fan. I don't see the "68" on my fan unless it hidden under the fan clutch. :P
Paul
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These fan blades are not date stamped, many of the fan clutches are though.
Jerry
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These fan blades are not date stamped.
Thanks Jerry! That's why I couldn't find the "68" stamp he mentioned, it's not there! You saved me the trouble of unbolting the fan clutch to check. :)
Paul
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All three of my original 68z fans have four rivets per blade.Also the clutches are dated on the hub edge and they have silver paint from the factory. John
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I'm just trying to find out what this was for. If the 68 is 1968, then it didn't come off the later Corvette. Maybe it's an 89?
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All three of my original 68z fans have four rivets per blade.Also the clutches are dated on the hub edge and they have silver paint from the factory. John
Most of the Schwitzer (flat plate) clutches are dated on the hub O.D., but the Eaton (coil element) clutches aren't.
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Hello John , Did you ever see the hubs painted bright silver? John
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Hello John , Did you ever see the hubs painted bright silver? John
Part of the shaft was painted silver on Schwitzer clutches, but not on Eaton clutches.
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So John Z, did this fan of mine come off a Corvette? If so what application was it for?
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So John Z, did this fan of mine come off a Corvette? If so what application was it for?
I don't know what the application might have been - the 3" bolt circle Corvette fans had five rivets.
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Thank you. I guess the hunt is still on for what this fan was for? It is a 3 1/4 " bolt circle.
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1960-1970 Corvettes used the clutch with the 3" fan attaching bolt circle; it changed to 3-1/4" in 1971. Eaton still makes new clutches in both the 3" and 3-1/4" bolt circle versions - the 3" version is GM #3916141, don't have the part number handy for the 3-1/4".
Anyone ever find out a part # for the Eaton 3-1/4" fan clutch? Also, I have my fan on Ebay and a guy sent me a message saying that fan is for the L78 and that the 4 rivet blades weren't strong enough for the big block motor. The logic escapes me and if that were true, I guess it would have been mentioned in Jerry's book. But no one has really said what this one was for.
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So is this a correct 4 rivet 5 blade 68 Z28 fan?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/66-67-68-69-Camaro-Corvette-Chevelle-Nova-5-Blade-Fan_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem3354c9c4f3QQitemZ220465841395QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
Item # 220465841395
Todd
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Nope, it has to have the 3 1/4" bolt circle. Same as '67 L78.
Jerry
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So Jerry, is this guy blowing smoke about my fan in the picture being for an L78?
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Tell me about it, I bet I could part my car out for more than I could sell it whole!! ;)
Paul
Yea Paul, between your 266 dizzy and that fan your're well on your way (along with a few other original parts - via eBay) toward buying a new 'retro' version... if that appeals.
Makes one wonder doesn't it? I passed on a badly wrecked '69 Z years back with less than 20k miles on the OE drivetrain - wish now I had bought it for the few hundred it would have taken and just tossed the body minus any of the now valuable trim parts that survived and stored the rest for times like these...
Probably like most I wouldn't have waited this long to sell it all off - but just think what something like that would have brought piece by piece in today's world!
Randy
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So are the 69 Z clutch fans this expensive, or is it just the 67/68 Z version?
Jimmy V.
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Usually it's the 67 and 8 z and L78 fans that are big bucks.
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Thanks for the education on fans and fan clutches for 68 Z28',
Can you guys tell me if the following fan and fan clutch are
correct for my 68 327/275 w/AC :
Fan # 3931002 Date Code A68
Cutch # 5389475 Date code 009 68
68z22
Lemans Blue
327/275 w/AC
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http://www.camaros.org/coolingsystems.shtml