CRG Discussion Forum

Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: 69 Z11 on January 15, 2008, 03:29:35 PM

Title: What do you think of this engine pad and stamp?
Post by: 69 Z11 on January 15, 2008, 03:29:35 PM: Just trying to further my education a bit. The pad looks almost polished to me, don't they usually have some machining marks on them?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123&viewitem=&item=160198745389#ebayphotohosting (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123&viewitem=&item=160198745389#ebayphotohosting)
Title: Re: What do you think of this engine pad and stamp?
Post by: JohnZ on January 15, 2008, 03:41:12 PM: Appears to have been decked during rebuild, worked to remove machining marks, and restamped; also, the "build sheet" in the photo is a fake.
Title: Re: What do you think of this engine pad and stamp?
Post by: KurtS on January 15, 2008, 03:43:23 PM: And the window sticker is a fake too.
Title: Re: What do you think of this engine pad and stamp?
Post by: jl8dale on January 15, 2008, 05:37:40 PM: Definitely been decked.
Title: Re: What do you think of this engine pad and stamp?
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on January 15, 2008, 05:40:44 PM: Quote from: JohnZ on January 15, 2008, 03:41:12 PM
Appears to have been decked during rebuild, worked to remove machining marks, and restamped; also, the "build sheet" in the photo is a fake.

Quote from: KurtS on January 15, 2008, 03:43:23 PM
And the window sticker is a fake too.

Wow! The seller's description states in capital letters and highlighted in bold... "ORIGINAL BUILD SHEET, WINDOW STICKER, AND PROTECT-O-PLATE!!!!!" >:(

Paul
Title: Re: What do you think of this engine pad and stamp?
Post by: 69 Z11 on January 15, 2008, 08:18:45 PM: Thought so. I'm learning.
Title: Re: What do you think of this engine pad and stamp?
Post by: jdv69z on January 15, 2008, 08:50:17 PM: Unfortunately, I am being convinced more every day that as Alan Colvin states in his By the numbers series of books, Camaros more and more have to stand on the merits of the car itself, and not paperwork, as there is so much fraud out there. I like the rusty seat spring marking on the build sheet!

Jimmy V.
Title: Re: What do you think of this engine pad and stamp?
Post by: dd442 on January 16, 2008, 02:26:29 AM: It really looks like the pad on the block has been polished, because the edges are rounded, and there are no circular deck marks, so its hard to say for sure.
Title: Re: What do you think of this engine pad and stamp?
Post by: Jerry@CHP on January 16, 2008, 03:05:14 AM: The characters look to be fragmented and not clean which means the block has been decked and restamped.

Jerry
Title: Re: What do you think of this engine pad and stamp?
Post by: cjm465 on January 16, 2008, 02:40:53 PM: What is the mark a little bit before where the vin stamp starts? Could that have been part of the previous stamp if there was one or from the holder on the restamp? More and more LA Z'z show up everyday, new trend as the fake Norwood tags get busted?
Title: Re: What do you think of this engine pad and stamp?
Post by: jdv69z on January 16, 2008, 03:30:43 PM: I noticed that on the cylinder heads seller lists part no. and casting date, whereas engine block only lists part no. and not casting date, like maybe it does not fit build time frame??

Jimmy V.
Title: Re: What do you think of this engine pad and stamp?
Post by: 69z28302 on January 21, 2008, 11:43:05 PM: The truth lies beneath the head gasket. If it is indeed original there would be traces of the OEM head gasket. Looks like it's been polished to me.

Mike