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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: Lukes 69 z28 on November 01, 2007, 03:17:11 AM
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I am working on two 69 Z28s with build dates of 05A and 06A can someone help me with the date codes on the wheels I Should be looking for ? thanks
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you should have dates prior to the build date of the car, 1 or 2 months before is ok.Im not sure how far back the dates will be accepted but 1 to 2 months is about right.
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I know the wheels on the 05A car should be 2-26 or 4-18 but the 06A car I have no idea . Does anyone have an original 05A and 06A 69Z with the original wheels that can help me Thanks.
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2-26 on my 03D, this is for sure.
Luke knows his wheel dates.
There is a May wheel, but I dont know the exact date.I dont believe there is a June wheel.
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Chris your 2-26 wheels are correct for your 03D car I have seen many 03D and 03E cars with that date. The 2-26 wheel and the 4-18 wheel seems to split in the first week of May somewhere. There are three may wheels that I know of and no June wheels that I know of. Does anyone else out there have an 05A Z with the original wheels ? thanks Luke
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i have 4-21 on my 05A Z
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Are these 4-21 wheels original to your car?
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yes. i have owned the car since 1977.
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X77-69z28 is it possible for you to e-mail me a phone no. or e-mail address so I could ask you some other questions? Just click on Lukes 69z28 for my e-mail address Thanks.
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I have the YH wheels on my car too. I'd be curious to know what the interest is all about. Are they anything special?
Joe
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I have the YH wheels on my car too. I'd be curious to know what the interest is all about. Are they anything special?
Joe
15x7 rally wheel, used on the '69 Z/28 from about January '69 on.
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I have the YH wheels on my car too. I'd be curious to know what the interest is all about. Are they anything special?
Joe
15x7 rally wheel, used on the '69 Z/28 from about January '69 on.
They were also used on Monte Carlo's in 1970. When purchasing verify year designation as well.
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My wheels must be swaped on to the car some time over the years. Z28 was the only one that came with a 15" wheel...right? SS cars had 14" wheels only...right?
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I have the YH wheels on my car too. I'd be curious to know what the interest is all about. Are they anything special?
Joe
15x7 rally wheel, used on the '69 Z/28 from about January '69 on.
They were also used on Monte Carlo's in 1970. When purchasing verify year designation as well.
Same wheel, but most of the Monte Carlo rally wheels were stamped "FW".
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My wheels must be swaped on to the car some time over the years. Z28 was the only one that came with a 15" wheel...right? SS cars had 14" wheels only...right?
Yes, that's correct.
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They were also used on Monte Carlo's in 1970. When purchasing verify year designation as well.
Same wheel, but most of the Monte Carlo rally wheels were stamped "FW".
All the 71+ Monte wheels were FW. 70 Monte wheels were YH and are often on ebay.
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So how do you tell the difference between "YH" wheels for a MC and a Camaro?
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So how do you tell the difference between "YH" wheels for a MC and a Camaro?
The wheels are date coded and the Monte Carlo was introduced for the 1970 model year.
Paul
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Wait a minute. I thought that the "AD" wheels were use up until May 69. The "YH" wheels used after that. Is this not correct? JohnZ you have info on that?
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The YH wheel was a mid December introduction to fit the JL8 option as quoted from this site.
http://www.camaros.org/suspen.shtml#Wheels
I just sold a set of 12-18 YH wheels.
John Z, what dates are on your 02D car? I have some mid to late January dates for mine. Seems like these wheels were in batches if only Z/28s used them.
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AD wheels were to Dec 68.
Then the YH's came out mid Dec 68 thru the rest of the 69 model year and then the 70 model year.
1970 wheels are dated for 1970. :)
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The wheels are date coded and the Monte Carlo was introduced for the 1970 model year.
Duh, thanks for setting me straight!
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What are the chances of finding a set of AD wheels for a 10B (Oct 68) build car? The proverbial "needle in a haystack"? My original ones are MIA.
Jimmy V.
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What are the chances of finding a set of AD wheels for a 10B (Oct 68) build car? The proverbial "needle in a haystack"? My original ones are MIA.
Jimmy -
Here's one for sale now, although it might be a tiny bit late (10-24) for your car...
http://www.camaros.net/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=22385&cat=8
Paul
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I have a an 05A Z/28 (X-77) that I have owned since May of 1984. It came to me with 5 YH coded rims and not cut up...that is, completely stock interior, all external emblems, a flat hood, manual steering, full gauges. The 302 was blown (a CE block but all the parts were 302) and come alongside the car. KURTS has been waiting for me to dig up the numbers on my YH rims for months...so here they are:
four (4) rims are = K19 8 4 YH (August 4th, right?)
one (1) rim is K19 2 26 YH (February 26th, correct?)
I pretty much know wher ethe car was fro msot of it's life before me. given that it was largely unmolested and un hot rod-ed I think it unlikely that someone went out and found 5 YH ralley's for it during the 70's, but anything is possible.
What are your thoughts?
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I think someone found at least 4 of them. The 4 august wheels were made 4 months after the car was built.
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I meant 3 months ::)
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What are the chances of finding a set of AD wheels for a 10B (Oct 68) build car? The proverbial "needle in a haystack"? My original ones are MIA.
Jimmy -
Here's one for sale now, although it might be a tiny bit late (10-24) for your car...
http://www.camaros.net/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=22385&cat=8
Paul
Thanks Paul, but unless I could get a matched set of 4 with correct date code, I might as well keep the 14x7 YJ wheels I have now. Mine were apparently swapped one for one from another car, as they are all the same June 69 mfg date. They are valuable in themselves to the right guy trying to restore a June 69 or so Camaro or Nova.
Jimmy V.
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I meant 3 months ::)
Yeah, I got that...the dates are what they are. I still find it really odd that a car would have had 4 out of 5 rims replaced and all with the same date and code. I know the old argument, anything can happen in 38 years but the car was only 15 years old when I bought it and had been in storage for the 4 years prior to my purchase. It even had the original Polyglass GT tires on it.
I guess I should play the lottery or something...what are the odds that all 4 rims would be YH coded and the same date?
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Probably swapped with another Z to get new tires (I just got mags and you can have the old wheels and tires for $50, just give me your rims....).
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I have some mid to late January dates for mine. Seems like these wheels were in batches if only Z/28s used them.
Mark's Yellow 02D RS Z has 1 27 and 1 28 YHs (2 of each IIRC).
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From all the info on this topic I have decided to use the 4-18 wheels . Does anyone have any K-1-9 4-18 wheels for sale ? thanks
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I dont know if it will help ,but i have a single yh wheel dated k19 4 9 april 9th, very good shape also.
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Was the 02D RS Z that had two YH wheels dated 1-27 and two dated 1-28 built in Van Nuys or Norwood?? I have an 02C Van Nuys built Z that has three YH wheels dated 1-27 and two dated 1-28. Interesting to see another car with the same dates. I always kinda wondered if mine were from the factory that way. Mine is an original unrestored car that sat untouched for 20 years before I got it, so the chances are slim that the wheels didnt come from the factory that way. Thanks.....
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I have an 02C Van Nuys built Z that has three YH wheels dated 1-27 and two dated 1-28. Interesting to see another car with the same dates. I always kinda wondered if mine were from the factory that way.
There's nothing unusual about that - wheels came by the thousands, stacked herringbone-style in rail cars, and nobody either at Kelsey-Hayes or at the assembly plants paid any attention at all to dates; all they cared about was the correct wheel type.
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hey flow joe,
I may have a couple of yh wheels that may work for you send me a PM
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Probably swapped with another Z to get new tires (I just got mags and you can have the old wheels and tires for $50, just give me your rims....).
Better than that - I figured it out...they guy I bought my car form in '84 had a second '69 badged as a Z/28 (he said it was but who knows). It was his P & J. Along with a brand new shiny black paint job it rocked a set of Center Line rims. Don't know the build date of the car but would bet that it was the original owner of those K19 8 4 YH rims.