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Title: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: kool427 on October 03, 2007, 02:08:15 PM
 I recently came across a 69 Camaro that I bought as a rolling pro street car and after deciding to sell it was informed that it was on the Yenko registy list. Is that enough to prove it is a real Yenko? If so what's it worth?  ??? Who would I get to authenticate the car?
Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: TDWZ28 on October 03, 2007, 02:54:20 PM
Try looking at www.yenko.net for the VIN on the list. The guys there should be able to help. What part of Michigan are you in? I am near Flint.
Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: kool427 on October 03, 2007, 05:36:10 PM
 We already found it on the Yenko registry. We also had a guy drive from three states away because he seen it for sale and inquired about the v.i.n. and he told us it was a Yenko. It's a color that the Yenkos used, it's a X44 car, and he found the holes under the dash where gauges were bolted. I was wondering if there is anybody local that could tell us any more about the car.
Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: KurtS on October 03, 2007, 06:26:04 PM
Well, where are you located in MI??
Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: JoeC on October 03, 2007, 07:27:25 PM
two quick checks are the 140 speedometer and the BE rear end code
Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: RickH on October 03, 2007, 08:18:41 PM
Not all Yenkos had the 140 speedo. Must order COPO 9737 to get the 140 speedo along with ralley wheels and larger sway bar.

Things are added and changed over 40 years so you must have a knowledgeable individual look it over.

Rick H.



Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: Steve Shauger on October 03, 2007, 10:53:54 PM
All 69 camaro yenko's were sports car conversion cars 9737 as well as 9561(double copos). So all 69's yenko camaros had 140. In 68 most 427 converted cars were 9737 copo's as well, but not all. I believe 2-4 were not 9737copo's. Most copos ordered by other dealers were for the most part just 9561 copo's. Berger and Douglas and a few others who ordered the cars as yenko did as double copos.
Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: RickH on October 04, 2007, 12:05:38 AM
I keep forgetting there were plain old COPO's as well. I just got done looking at 2 COPO's, one Yenko, one COPO and to tell you the truth I thought both had the 120 speedo's. I know both didn't have ralley's. I will go back and look at them again this week.

Rick H.
Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: kool427 on October 04, 2007, 03:59:17 PM
 This car has the 120 speedo. The car has been back halfed and all the original drive train is gone. Any speculation on what it may be worth in this shape?
Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: Lt1Mike on October 04, 2007, 06:47:58 PM
Sent you a PM

Mike
Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: TDWZ28 on October 05, 2007, 10:59:25 AM
I put a link to this thread ay Yenko site. Guy there says it isn't a real one.He seems to know the VIN. You may want to check it out at that site.
Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: jdv69z on October 05, 2007, 12:52:13 PM
IMO, I would think that for a car like this, bringng it back would be for the love of it. I don't see how this could be a smart financial move.

Jimmy V.
Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: JoeC on October 05, 2007, 02:44:35 PM
There is a slight chance that there was a non COPO 9737 1969 Yenko Camaro sold out of Douglass Chevy.

Doughless was a Yenko Super Camaro dealer who also ordered some 427 COPO Camaros on his own and striped them with Yenko kits. It is theoretically possible that he Yenkoized a non 9737 Camaro.

So a car can be found with original paint and Yenko stripes and was a Douglas Yenko, as far as the original owner would know, he would have bought a non 9737 69 Yenko Camaro.
 It is not known if Douglass only used 9737 9561 Camaros for the cars he did.

This is a hypothetical and no reference to the car mentioned in Michigan
Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: KurtS on October 06, 2007, 04:40:58 AM
The car is now on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170156133445

Nice rolller, but the #'s confirm it is not a Yenko or COPO.
Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: NickeyChicago on October 29, 2007, 12:57:45 AM
The vin to the ebay car is inncorrectly listed on the Yenko inventory sheets as 124379N615016. The correct corresponding car and proper VIN are located.

Regarding Douglass Yenkos;

     While that is  certainly possible it is not probable.  Jack Douglass the Dealer Principal and Tom Dumass his General Manager confirm that thier direct order of 25 Camaros was with Both Copo 9561 and 9737 options. 24 were ordered on the same day with a black one being added the next day. More than 10 of these Douglass cars have been found and accounted for and thus far all have been Double COPOs.

      I was informed that no other COPO 9561 or 9561 and 9737 Camaros other than the inital orders were sold other than some direct order Chevelle L72s and two truck loads of Yenko Double COPOs which were ordered thru Yenko Chevrolet and sent to Douglass Chevrolet. There was also a '68 Yenko sold out of Douglass.

     Jack vividly quoted his number at 25 long before the Yenko Estate document was released to the public. He ordered 4 cars in each of the 6 traditional Yenko Colors a total of 24. It was not till the next day when they figured that since they were ordering direct, they could mix up the colors a bit and add the black one as well.
Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: JoeC on October 31, 2007, 01:51:56 PM
I thought 2 white ones have been found?

If he ordered 4 cars in each of the 6 traditional Yenko Colors for a total of 24 and 1 black one, where do the 2 white ones fall in since white was not a Yenko color?
Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: NickeyChicago on November 06, 2007, 03:26:10 PM
Soon after the initial order of 24, in the 6 traditional colors, it was detirmined that they may not need (EXAMPLE) 4 Olympic Gold  Douglass Yenkos and the 4 were split into two Dover White and two OG. These Changes were made after the order was placed.

Both Dover White Douglass Yenkos are found and they are consecutive body numbers. Both have very interesting Histories. Milt Robson had one restored as found/Yenko Stripes and badges even though he knew nothing about the Douglass Story.

Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: black69 on November 08, 2007, 05:50:06 AM
I have to ask, the douglas 'black' car, would it have been striped like a Yenko, like the white douglas cars? Just had to ask.....that would be something to see.
Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: JoeC on November 10, 2007, 03:36:05 PM
I have seen the wht/blk Yenko striped Camaro and black/wht striped cars (clone) and thought they both look very cool

As far as the black Douglass 427 COPO, I don't think there is any documentation on the Douglass 427 COPO cars so I don't know how you can tell if they are all 9737s or had Yenko stripes installed unless you have baby pictures or original paint or sales docs.

Title: Re: Possible Yenko found in Michigan?
Post by: firstgenaddict on February 29, 2008, 10:48:55 PM
Where does the white one come in?