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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Restoration => Topic started by: JohnSSL78 on December 28, 2005, 01:58:12 AM
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I am starting the restoration of my 69 12 bolt rearend and need advice on the painting of it. Did the factory completely assemble the rearends including all brake parts and then paint them? Were the bolts painted also? I assume the brake lines were put on later during the cars assembly?
John
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I believe axle housings were painted [glossy black] immediately after machining. Assembly paint daubs were later applied on the axle paint. Since the axle paint wasn't very good it did not adhere for long particularly in rust belt states. Brake components and axle parts [flange, etc] should not be painted. The rear axle cover and backing plates were likely received already painted. In my opinion cast-blast is not correct for axle housings.
Another common error is cast-blast for rear brake drums. There are photos in several vintage magazines showing the installation of t-bars or gears; drums were semi-gloss black.
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The rear axle assembly (housing, tubes, diff, rear cover, backing plates and drums and parking brake cables) was painted at the axle plant as a completed assembly just before it was placed in the shpping rack; the brake pipes and center block were installed later at the car assembly plants.
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Parking brake cables are never painted.
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That was the one detail that I noticed too. The rest I agree with. ;)
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But if the drums (and brake internals) were installed prior to painting, then the parking brake cables had to be installed and painted at the same time! GM wouldnt have added them later. Something is not adding up. Either the rear was painted without the brake drum, cable and internals, then brakes were added later (unpainted) or it was all together including cables and the whole unit was painted.
Thoughts?
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That is why I thought the housings were painted before assembly-brake parts are never painted. Also I did not think the fasteners retaining the cover and backing plates had paint on them either. But John Z was there.
There is a good photo of a '69 Z/28 axle in the March '69 Hot Rod. The photo shows the brake drum mostly painted around the circumference, not much on the front around the studs.
Another good photo in the Aug '69 Hi-Perf Cars of the #3 ZL1 axle. It appears to be glossy, pb cables not painted.
Another detail was a paper label on each brake drum with the axle code.
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The cables were probably on the unit but just didn't get sprayed. Someone might want to check if the mounted end of the cable had paint on it.
2-cents
Buddy
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I have dismantled many 12 bolt axles over the 15 years we had the business. I never saw paint on any part of a pb cable.
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When we hoisted the axle out of the shipping rack, the cables were crosswise horizontally across the axle, above the diff nose, and held together with a wire tie so they didn't dangle and get hung up in the rack locators; after setting the axle on the chassis carrier and installing the springs and cable guides, we cut the wire tie, routed the cables, and clipped them into the guides. The cables may have been hanging free when the assembly was painted while on the conveyor at the axle plant, then routed and wire-tied before the axle was transferred into the shipping rack. :)
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The rear axle assembly (housing, tubes, diff, rear cover, backing plates and drums and parking brake cables) was painted at the axle plant as a completed assembly just before it was placed in the shpping rack; the brake pipes and center block were installed later at the car assembly plants.
John,
Is it your considered opinion then that the entire rear should be painted the same percentage of gloss black? While we are on this subject, what
do you consiider the closest paint ( gloss content ) for the rear axle assembly?
Steve
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So is the driveshaft flange assembly natural in color? The part that is attached to the pinion gear.
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As I stated previously the driveshaft flange was not painted. It must have been masked.
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Thanks. Just making sure.
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I'd call the axle paint semi-gloss; the pinion flange was masked with a thin cardboard tube to keep paint off the U-joint cap seating surfaces - every now and then we'd get an axle that still had the tube in place. :)
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Thanks for all the great info so far. I guess I'm still not sure whether the bolts and hardware that held the backing plates on and the 12 bolt cover bolts were painted or not. Also the brake wheel cylinders. I saw an original 69 Camaro 12 bolt that had yellow paint stripes on the top sides of the axle tubes near the U bolt clamps. Is there any other paint colors or locations for these?
John