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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: waynechipman on December 21, 2005, 07:59:32 PM

Title: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: waynechipman on December 21, 2005, 07:59:32 PM
Does anyone hav an Idea how many 69 Camaros remain in existence.
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: PACE&Z2869 on December 21, 2005, 09:46:08 PM
GOOD QUESTION! EVERYONE COUNT OFF, 2 IN MY GARAGE. (WOULDN'T BE NICE IF IT WAS THAT EASY?) :)
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: waynechipman on December 21, 2005, 10:15:10 PM
OK , how many are registered with motor vehicle records. There has to be at least one computer hacker who is into muscle cars that could find the info
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: Dusk Blue Z on December 21, 2005, 11:06:05 PM
I think there are 32,000 Z-28's still on the road. ::)
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: waynechipman on December 21, 2005, 11:41:21 PM
Hey thats funnier than sh#t, there are probably at least 80,000 SS Camaros still around
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: coke69z11 on December 26, 2005, 11:18:40 PM
And about 5,348 of the 3,675 Z11's still exist!
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: waynechipman on December 27, 2005, 09:18:08 AM
gets funnier and funnier. I think ill go make a yenko hahaha
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: RamAirDave on December 29, 2005, 03:06:35 AM
I think there are only a couple dozen 6cyl cars left.  Funny how they didnt survive as well  ;)


dave
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: Ron C. on December 31, 2005, 12:12:10 AM
here is another funny response,but in reality its something that all of us that own 69 camaros should be concerned about. there will soon be more 69 convertables out there than gm made with the repop convertable bodys that are being reproduced and soon they will be selling the coupes. well its a topic that has me wondering will it make our real 69 camaros worth more or less? something to ponder now that they are repoping phonie camaro bodys now.maybe we should get a number of real 69 camaros before the fake ones or clones take over ;D
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: wtexz10 on December 31, 2005, 12:34:51 AM
Maybe the repop bodies will be good?

Look what happened to the Cobra.

Kris
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: JohnZ on December 31, 2005, 03:48:05 PM
here is another funny response,but in reality its something that all of us that own 69 camaros should be concerned about. there will soon be more 69 convertables out there than gm made with the repop convertable bodys that are being reproduced and soon they will be selling the coupes. well its a topic that has me wondering will it make our real 69 camaros worth more or less? something to ponder now that they are repoping phonie camaro bodys now.maybe we should get a number of real 69 camaros before the fake ones or clones take over ;D

With the price of the reproduction body shells and the cost of all the parts to make them into cars, I wouldn't worry about too many of them appearing and diluting the '69 gene pool. :)
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: waynechipman on December 31, 2005, 04:04:08 PM
Good points. Though the cobras were never produced in numbers. The cost of building one of those foreign body jokes is quite expensive, so hopefully they wont hurt price of real ones. I would imagine without a VIN to rivet in that these could not be titled as 69 Camaros. Titles should also read as a rebody, Gm was wrong in allowing them to be called Camaros when they should be called a kit car just like Cobras. I will never buy a new GM product after they did this, they soiled their name
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: JKZ27 on December 31, 2005, 05:45:05 PM
Some states, like Maryland, will issue VIN plates for theft recoveries and "replicars".


John

Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: 69-er on January 08, 2006, 05:38:23 PM
I think that since the bodies are reproductions, there will be ways to spot them.  Plus, the bodies will just "look" like Camaros, the title, I suppose, will show that it's not real Camaro.  Only the fools will be fooled.

Larry
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: tom on January 09, 2006, 12:08:50 AM
sounds like a project for somebody. Document the most obvious diffs between the originals and the re-pops. There must be loads........
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on January 12, 2006, 05:52:19 PM
I feel like I should play devil's advocate here...
Good points. Though the cobras were never produced in numbers. The cost of building one of those foreign body jokes is quite expensive, so hopefully they wont hurt price of real ones. I would imagine without a VIN to rivet in that these could not be titled as 69 Camaros. Titles should also read as a rebody, Gm was wrong in allowing them to be called Camaros when they should be called a kit car just like Cobras. I will never buy a new GM product after they did this, they soiled their name
There are a few things I should mention about this. Obviously, I disagree with the "GM soiled their name by doing this" statement. Obviously, they soiled their name by producing front-wheel drive V8 powered cars.  ;D

Secondly, what "foreign body joke" are you talking about? I know that many Cobra replicas are of poor quality, but the Factory Five and Superfomance replicas look spot-on, and you can build the Factory Five one for about $20K, provided you do the labor and provide Mustang donor components.  :)

Anyways, I think that GM is doing the right thing here. Although the thought of building a Camaro from scratch using the re-pop body sounds tempting, (I might do that...), the real intent of the re-pop body was to provide an alternative for anyone with a rusted-out body, right? If faced with the choice of hours of hard labor to put on new body panels, or having the work done for you, which one would you take? The latter, every time. I know I would. It would eliminate one time-consuming task and let me focus on the other aspects of getting the car up and running. Yes, I know that you can also use a body shop to graft on new panels, but what about the cost of labor? I'm pretty certain that the cost of labor, plus the cost of the body panels, would total more than the $10K being asked for the repop. (Of course, if I'm wrong, please correct me... 8)) There's always the chance of mistakes happening, right? Any mistakes would equal more money being spent to fix the problem. Wouldn't you rather save money by buying the repop and using the saved money on other aspects of the car? I personally think the benifits of the repop outweigh the disadvantages. Of course, you can disagree with me, but that's my stance on the issue.

(Of course, it should be noted that I like taking unpopular opinions. I think the English language dub of Naruto is great, that the new Dodge Charger is a sexy design, and that Van Halen was better with Sammy Hagar. Take that as you will.  ;D)
I think that since the bodies are reproductions, there will be ways to spot them.  Plus, the bodies will just "look" like Camaros, the title, I suppose, will show that it's not real Camaro.  Only the fools will be fooled.

Larry
Agreed. If someone does use the repop to build a Camaro from scratch, it would probably be for a pro touring machine, not an exact replica. If anyone does use the repop to make an exact replica and try to pass it off as one while they're selling it, they're probably scumbags anyways.  >:(

Anyways, I'll conclude this post with this link:
http://www.yearone.com/Articles/tech3.asp?AID=71
It may not change anybody's mind, but it's a good read anyways.  ;)
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on January 13, 2006, 04:01:53 AM
Did I just kill this thread?  ???
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: project69 on January 15, 2006, 10:17:34 PM
i dont know.....but in about 12 months there will be one more that i know about..:thumbsup:
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on January 15, 2006, 10:22:13 PM
i dont know.....but in about 12 months there will be one more that i know about..:thumbsup:
As in, you're building one yourself? Sounds pretty good to me! :)
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: project69 on January 15, 2006, 10:27:12 PM
i dont know.....but in about 12 months there will be one more that i know about..:thumbsup:
As in, you're building one yourself? Sounds pretty good to me! :)
full on restoration...yep..   i might do a z28888888/rs clone...unsure right now...i might drop a 454 in it but that might look a little odd....z28 with a 454 in it..lol
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: 69 4 Speed on January 19, 2006, 03:55:50 PM
I don't think that a 454 would look odd in a Z.   I've seen plenty with automatics  and drum brakes.
Yeah.....right.     J.R.
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: project69 on February 19, 2006, 02:53:39 AM
I don't think that a 454 would look odd in a Z. I've seen plenty with automatics and drum brakes.
Yeah.....right. J.R.
lol...well obviously i will be upgrading...actually ill be dropping a 350 in it...
Title: Re: 69 Camaro How many left.
Post by: McKenzieDave on February 26, 2006, 06:51:08 PM
Just a small opinion to interject.  This industry and our infatuation with the 1st gen should be based on appreciation for the cars, not strictly investment potential.  I will be the first to admit that knowing your vehicle is financially sound is nice, but this replacement shell is more appealing than a still half rusty hull with a bunch of rust still lurking in the seams.  Just make sure YOU are smarter than the idiots that will be pirating these shells and we can all live on the same field.  As it is now a fools beware market, this is just a new angle on the same old idea--making a nice car that you should enjoy.  Dave