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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Restoration => Topic started by: TCHVETTE on May 14, 2007, 12:15:49 AM
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I am new to this forum. In August we started to restorea 69 Big Block. Can some one help me with the paint for the dash? The interior code is 727 and the dash is black. I have been told that the dash should be black semi gloss at 30%. Is this correct and where is the best place to purchase the paint. Thanks in advance for all of your help! :)
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I don't know about the face, but MacNeish says the top is "suede paint finish" whatever the hell that is, I don't know.
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Definately does not need any gloss to it. I used a satin base with flattner with my dark green.
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30% is about right,
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Thanks to all that responded. I did find an actual Ditzler Code for the interior low gloss colors for Black. It is 9266 for low gloss and 9317 for Zero Gloss (Flat) This code when entered at your local auto paint dealer will bring up the formula that will contain the correct amount of flattener for each code.
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Suede is a flattening agent that causes the finish to wrinkle slightly, somewhat similar to the finish on cheap toolboxes. The Feds required a non-glare surface for the dash top.
Flat or semi-gloss on the top of the dash is not correct.
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So does someone make a finish that actuall duplicates the factory suede look? I will need to paint my dash soon and would like to have an original type look.
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Do not know. I used to get rattle-cans of it mixed locally but that was in the lacquer days.
Ask these guys: www.towerpaint.com
You can get close by initially getting just enough paint on the dash top to cover. Let it dry then lightly dust it from about 18" with the same paint.
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I asked this ? over at Yenko.net awhile back, here is the link. I have not tried to hard to find any. I think the old lacquer additive may not be aviallable ??
Mike
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB10&Number=255750&Searchpage=1&Main=255750&Words=+m22mike&topic=&Search=true#Post255750
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I can still get the original lacquer suede paint from a local vendor in Baltimore. It's expensive, about $75 for a pint.......or more depending on the color.
Jerry
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You can get close by initially getting just enough paint on the dash top to cover. Let it dry then lightly dust it from about 18" with the same paint.
That is what I did. Worked pretty good.
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Can one of you post a pic of what the finished product is supposed to look like?
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Thanks to all that responded. I did find an actual Ditzler Code for the interior low gloss colors for Black. It is 9266 for low gloss and 9317 for Zero Gloss (Flat) This code when entered at your local auto paint dealer will bring up the formula that will contain the correct amount of flattener for each code.
All of those codes are for lacquer...which is largerly unavailable (I suppose Jerry's situation would be the exception)...so they need to be able to convert to modern paints, which most if it won't and most counter guys won't take the time to figure out . Locally none of my PPG dealers care to try. I've got one Dupont dealer who was willing but only in Centari which is now a dead product too. I went through this a few years back to do a bright blue interior on my '67 Firebird convertible and about a year ago to do the black interior on my '67 Camaro convertible.
You'd think it would be a slam dunk to take the original lacquer formula and generate a modern equivilant
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Check out http://www.metropartsmarket.com/catalog/originalautopaintandvinyldye-c1s2.html for interior lacquer paint. I bought some from them, but haven't sprayed my dash yet.
You'd think it would be a slam dunk to take the original lacquer formula and generate a modern equivilant
You would think. Now, try matching an exterior color like ash gold - what a pain. I finally had to send a sample to the BASF color labs to have my exterior paint matched.
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I would much prefer the modern equivalent over lacquer myself...I would think it would hold up to UV rays better. Nobody got a pic of an original dash?
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Why cut corners. The OEM paint is still available. I should also mention that all of the survivor cars that I've seen over the years have excellent upper dash board areas. The original suede paint holds up very well.........even after almost 40 years.
Jerry
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If that's the case then I would agree. Now if I can just find someone around here that sells it. I doubt anyone does...hard enough to get any type of paint supplies around where I live:)
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(http://www.crossroadspaper.com/PICT0935.JPG)
This is the difference in Suede and lower dash paint...
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BASF (Glasurit &RM) still makes the texture suede additive. C
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Original lower dashes Ive seen have been around 50% or so in gloss. Gloss % is often objective depending on whoever is looking at it, but they do have some sheen as seen in James' pic above.
Here's a pic of the suede top.