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Title: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: dannystarr on January 06, 2023, 05:56:01 PM
Went for a ride yesterday in one of my Camaros. Trying to get some drive time in... Driving along, looked down, going 60. Looked down a minute later it was on Zero. Pulled the trans gear, it was perfect. Pulled the cable out and it broke 2" from the dash connection. Got the 2" broken piece out.
Searched many places online and NAPA and O'reilly... ALL have 63". I stretched out the cable with the broken piece and measured it 3 times, it is 62"? Will 63" work? Where does the slack go? I assume they are measuring the longest point, which would be the insert?
Anybody have a source, part# for a correct length cable.

1968 Camaro Z/28 survivor. No past modifications, no cruise control. Thanx... Danny
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: cook_dw on January 06, 2023, 06:05:38 PM
I have no input on your question but Im curious what the code on the cable jacket would be?  CA possibly?
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: dannystarr on January 06, 2023, 07:06:06 PM
I have seen something, but didn't take notice of the white ink. I will take a look. Car is Norwood built. Danny
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: dannystarr on January 06, 2023, 07:46:32 PM
CA it is..  Danny
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: 169INDY on January 06, 2023, 07:48:49 PM
You have a valid point, the Square recess pockets in the speedo and trans drive gears MUST have some clearance (i.e.0 Free space) plus the side clearance in the sheath and the cable compressibility to add up to allow a 63" to work.
If it is not a huge risk of expense go for the 63"'er
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: camaronut on January 07, 2023, 01:56:10 AM
Pretty sure you can cut off 1/2” off each end with a dremel tool.  Just make sure the end that goes into the speedometer matches what you have originally.  A friend of mine with a 71 Corvette did that and it worked.  He cut most off the cable closest to the trans.
Good luck!
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: dannystarr on January 07, 2023, 03:53:57 AM
I thought about the 63". But if the 62" worked for 54 years 8 months... why change it.
 
I also thought about the cutting. I was going to cut a 1/2" off each end. As the rigid compressed square is about an inch on each side. I will take your advice and cut 5/8ths" off the trans side, remainder off the dash side and see what happens. It also had a little aluminum collar on the dash side. I put the cable in a vise and used a metric socket and tapped it off the end. Easy to do cause the cable was only 2" inches long because of the break. That would have been very hard to get off if it was a full-length cable. Danny
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: David K on January 07, 2023, 05:35:13 PM
Do we at least get pictures?
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: dannystarr on January 07, 2023, 11:26:30 PM
This car is known here. Danny

     http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=12453.0
 
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: 68camaroz28 on January 08, 2023, 01:21:05 PM
This car is known here. Danny

     http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=12453.0
 
Thought u sold that years ago?
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: dannystarr on January 10, 2023, 04:30:31 PM
Chick,
 Yes, car was sold and then bought back. See Below.. All the cars are up in the air. I have my next CT Scan Tom at 10am. I get one every 3 months with contrast dye. Also the Cancer in my throat is back. 4 Nodules the size of peas on the left side. As previously mentioned, I have denied all treatment. Last results show:
 
  Helical Tomography of the chest is performed during intravenous administration of 70 cc Isovue-370. Sagittal and coronal
  reformatted images of the thorax era submitted. There significantly enlarged supraclavicular lymph nodes with-in the image Z
  axis field-of-view.
  Atherosclerotic changes are noted with-in the coronary arteries. Central airways are patent with no evidence of end bronchial.
  There are multiple bilateral pulmonary metastases nodules that have increased in size in both lungs.

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Car BACK in the Garage, Raquel
Thru some unfortunate/fortunate circumstances, some creative financing by myself and my girlfriend, and some good ol’ American Ingenuity…our old ’68 Butternut Yellow Z/28 is back in the garage! I mentioned to Jon, Skip, Chick and the guys at dinner at Gibson’s last November at MCACN, that there was a possibility that this could take place. The buyers had not finished paying us the total amount. I let them slide as they are 35 year friends. SO it actually worked out in our favor as I was able to buy it back. I had a guy from New Zealand that wanted the car BAD for a few more $. But sold it to a friend. Could have been a “FRIEND RUINING” disaster as they STILL owed us 15K! BUT, I flipped it right back around and got the deal done. Between ALL of us…I don’t think his wife wanted to do the deal in the first place. So she is probably happy it’s gone. And my buddy is fine with it all, as he needed an influx of cash. So YAY!!!
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=14070.0
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: camaronut on January 10, 2023, 06:11:49 PM
 :(
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: dannystarr on January 10, 2023, 07:42:37 PM
Don't wanna take up any more space than I already have about health issues. PM me only please. Unless you have info on Speedo cable length or source for purchase. Thanx... Danny
 
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: camaronut on January 11, 2023, 01:39:58 AM
Here's a 62" for a 69 - but for an automatic application - Maybe this will work?

https://www.heartbeatcitycamaro.com/17751/1969-Camaro-%26-Firebird-Speedometer-Cable-Assembly-62%22-Turbo-350-%26-Turbo-400/

Everything for a 68 Z is not even close to 62"  (for what's in stock)

GM part number for the 62 1/8" inner cable is: 6452474.

And:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/124544916776?hash=item1cff749d28:g:KTEAAOSwjDtgD3FD&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoGT%2FtKGhQ8E%2BlwCwTMREW%2B0nXyx2JUsnvhLvKOTWwM4iLlJuNikCa4Ic3ZEQwuXCNfJod24mJP2AGqiw2ne6%2Brow4FnQ5jFzwZUzBrqpC12bVpIn2dh4iz%2BK6sYeLcE6oiABUq5%2BkREvB2PLvjmkv%2BwDuCMcpSYtuVDR0dDBnjXUUn8jc44RZxQzFO86jH%2FylhuoQtLOjYFxv9DAYs4fMYg%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5bL0eizYQ
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: plumL78 on January 11, 2023, 09:53:35 PM
69s are different where they go into the speedo housing
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: camaronut on January 12, 2023, 12:27:21 AM
Then.........I would think the inner cable would be good to go.  Hope it works out for him.
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: dannystarr on January 12, 2023, 11:19:48 PM
Correct... I just need the insert cable itself. I have ordered a 63 and it was 64. I ordered a 61 hoping it was 62 and it was exactly 61 inches. Go figure... Danny
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: 68L30 on January 13, 2023, 02:44:27 AM
Mine did the exact same thing, only mine bounced around right before it broke. I put mine back together again with a Oxy torch & silver solder. Hit it with a scotchbrite wheel and slid it back in. Been working the last 10+ years.

Steve
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: dannystarr on January 13, 2023, 05:27:38 AM
I guess I could try that. I have silver soldered 6-inch copper back in the day. Dual rose bud fitting. I don't know, I am getting frustrated. I refuse to drive the car without the speedo working properly. I want to retain the correct mileage. I bought the car with 54,614 in 2015. It now has 59,800. I might just have to let it go. I'm getting tired. D
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: x66 714 on January 14, 2023, 01:36:56 AM
A speedometer repair/recalibration shop should be able to make what you need. Mine measures 62" as you 1st indicated. When I worked at NAPA, they sold a length of cable, a tip & a cheap tool. All came in one box. That's been 40+ years ago....Joe
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: dannystarr on January 14, 2023, 03:36:14 PM
Napa still has that repair kit available. I just would rather not go that route. You would think after 55 years, SOMEONE would make the correct length cable. I am picking up a 61 incher today at Napa. To see by chance if it is a 62. The last two 61 inchers were from O'Reilly and a supply company online, BOTH measured 61 exactly. I have other cars, one has the 302 on a stand. I might just rob the cable out of it for now. Just to get the running car going again. Danny
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: camaronut on January 15, 2023, 12:04:35 AM
Amazing how much BS you have to go through just to get the right speedometer cable.   >:(
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: dannystarr on January 21, 2023, 08:37:09 PM
WELL... The 61 incher I ordered from NAPA arrived. I was hoping it was 62" since all the others have been an inch longer. It measured 61-1/4". TOO short. These college boys/engineers have no field smarts. They are super smart ON PAPER. I used to deal with this in my trade. I sold my oxy/acet torch set-up a couple years ago. I tried to rob a inner cable out of another car. But it has been sitting since the early to mid 70's and is stuck in the housing. The other cars are operating properly. I never rob parts off a complete car to get another one functioning. So STILL dead in the water or in this case... on land. D
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: David K on January 21, 2023, 08:44:05 PM
Perhaps you could try any one of the used Camaro places…at least call.. they had my hard find part. Plus, that’s what he does.

https://www.davidt.com/
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: camaronut on January 22, 2023, 01:25:19 AM
According to the GM parts manual the part number for the 62 1/8" inner cable is: 6452474. 
Still on eBay...https://www.ebay.com/itm/124544916776?hash=item1cff749d28:g:KTEAAOSwjDtgD3FD&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoGT%2FtKGhQ8E%2BlwCwTMREW%2B0nXyx2JUsnvhLvKOTWwM4iLlJuNikCa4Ic3ZEQwuXCNfJod24mJP2AGqiw2ne6%2Brow4FnQ5jFzwZUzBrqpC12bVpIn2dh4iz%2BK6sYeLcE6oiABUq5%2BkREvB2PLvjmkv%2BwDuCMcpSYtuVDR0dDBnjXUUn8jc44RZxQzFO86jH%2FylhuoQtLOjYFxv9DAYs4fMYg%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5bL0eizYQ
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: David K on January 22, 2023, 06:58:50 AM
Not any more.
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: dannystarr on January 22, 2023, 04:45:22 PM
Trying not to get ANOTHER 55 year old unit and take the chance of it breaking in 10 minutes. I will keep the old one and maybe it can be repaired someday. But probably not by me.
I emailed the guy in that ebay ad and asked him to take 60 seconds to measure it. Wanna make sure it was the correct size. Not a hard request to achieve. Never heard back... Danny
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: Chuck-68-Cam on January 22, 2023, 05:41:31 PM
Shot in the dark...Maybe this will help?

https://speedometercablesusa.com/cables_and_housing_assembly.html
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: dannystarr on January 23, 2023, 03:10:28 PM
Chuckman,
 Thanx for that company's info. I contacted them and was very explanatory on what I wanted. Also found another one doing a Google search. I contacted them also. We'll see what happens. Danny
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: Chuck-68-Cam on January 23, 2023, 03:15:38 PM
Cool, glad I could help.
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: dannystarr on January 23, 2023, 09:59:35 PM
That cable company in Colorado got back to me promptly. Cable has been ordered and will be here in 4 or 5 days. Nice people, I will update when item received. Danny
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: Chuck-68-Cam on January 23, 2023, 10:05:39 PM
Did you get a full assembly or just the inner cable? Fair price?
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: sixt9x33rs on January 24, 2023, 12:14:51 AM
Here you go Danny. Try these guys.

https://speedometercablesusa.com/

Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: dannystarr on January 24, 2023, 06:51:24 PM
Here you go Danny. Try these guys.

https://speedometercablesusa.com/


Yes, that is the same company I just ordered from... Cost was $56 complete. But I already have a set-up in the car and it is original. So just ordered the cable. Cost $24 plus whatever the shipping is going to be. Excited to get it installed. Car is in the air as I had a leaking freeze plug. VERY LUCKY it was the one above the starter. I beat it out working on it rocking back and forth until I pried it out. So ready for the cable. D
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: dannystarr on January 27, 2023, 05:06:10 AM
Cable arrived today, one day early. Exactly 62-1/8th". Looks very nice. Even arrived with some grease. Total for cable S/H/I = $30.50... Looking forward to getting it installed. D
Title: Re: Speedo Cable Broke
Post by: sixt9x33rs on January 30, 2023, 02:31:17 AM
How does it compare to the original? I agree looks nice.