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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: camaronut on December 01, 2022, 04:49:55 PM

Title: 69 Temp sender with threads wire mounting sequence
Post by: camaronut on December 01, 2022, 04:49:55 PM: Ok....I've tried everywhere to get a picture of an original car with the temp sender wiring with console gauges.

I have a kit from HBC that has TWO nuts and the star washer. I see on the AIM that the wire terminal is put in first, then the star washer - then the nut - then tighten. Ok - easy.

Am I to believe that I should have one nut tightened onto the sender, then the wire terminal - then star washer - then the other nut and tighten that all together??????

I'm going with the AIM - but are there any original cars out there with two nuts?

Looking for the real experts to chime in!!!!! LOL!
Title: Re: 69 Temp sender with threads wire mounting sequence
Post by: x66 714 on December 01, 2022, 05:41:22 PM: My car is factory with gauges & still has the original sender. 1 nut, 1 lock washer. Not a star washer. With the original sender, there's not enough threads for a 2nd nut.....Joe
Title: Re: 69 Temp sender with threads wire mounting sequence
Post by: camaronut on December 01, 2022, 05:49:07 PM: Thank you !!!! Appreciate the help.
Title: Re: 69 Temp sender with threads wire mounting sequence
Post by: x66 714 on December 01, 2022, 05:57:28 PM: You're welcome
Title: Re: 69 Temp sender with threads wire mounting sequence
Post by: camaronut on December 01, 2022, 06:06:44 PM: Interesting - I looked in the AIM and the part number for that washer is 138479 - which is a "toothed" washer. Looked it up on AMK and internet search, and its a toothed washer. Could this be another GM AIM vs reality snafu? I just found a picture with a cross ram that has what you have - a split lock washer.
Whatever - I have better things to worry about. LOL
Title: Re: 69 Temp sender with threads wire mounting sequence
Post by: x66 714 on December 01, 2022, 09:50:13 PM: I've had that car since 1981. I always put hardware back where it came off. Between 1970, when the dealer finally sold it & 1981 something could've changed. I wonder what others have on their cars?....Joe
Title: Re: 69 Temp sender with threads wire mounting sequence
Post by: camaronut on December 02, 2022, 11:54:14 AM: I'm willing to bet yours is correct. Thanks!!!
Title: Re: 69 Temp sender with threads wire mounting sequence
Post by: Kelley W King on December 02, 2022, 01:15:14 PM: Not doubting Joe,s car came with a lock washer I think that the star washer is what was intended and should be there.
Title: Re: 69 Temp sender with threads wire mounting sequence
Post by: KurtS on December 13, 2022, 11:02:45 PM: Agreed, star washers were designed for electrical conductivity....
Title: Re: 69 Temp sender with threads wire mounting sequence
Post by: camaronut on December 13, 2022, 11:19:22 PM: I decided to use the star washer like is says in the AIM. Would be nice to see other original cars...
Title: Re: 69 Temp sender with threads wire mounting sequence
Post by: perryrj on December 14, 2022, 04:49:47 AM: Isn't this the original style sending unit for a 69 with console gauges?
Title: Re: 69 Temp sender with threads wire mounting sequence
Post by: x66 714 on December 14, 2022, 11:51:28 AM: No. That the replacement that some companies sell.

I'm most likely going to change mine to a star washer. What Kurt says makes complete sense.....Joe
Title: Re: 69 Temp sender with threads wire mounting sequence
Post by: KurtS on December 14, 2022, 04:28:13 PM: Quote from: perryrj on December 14, 2022, 04:49:47 AM
Isn't this the original style sending unit for a 69 with console gauges?
IIRC, that's the style without gauges.
Title: Re: 69 Temp sender with threads wire mounting sequence
Post by: x66 714 on December 14, 2022, 07:01:14 PM: I just did some research on the 138479. I didn't find it in AMK. On GMWikisearch, it says it's a #10 external star washer with a 13/32 o.d., zinc. It's the same lock washer that's used on the starter solenoid & probably many other places. Sorry for the confusion....Joe
Title: Re: 69 Temp sender with threads wire mounting sequence
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Title: Re: 69 Temp sender with threads wire mounting sequence
Post by: lynnbilodeau on January 24, 2023, 04:24:08 AM: Quote from: KurtS on December 14, 2022, 04:28:13 PM
Quote from: perryrj on December 14, 2022, 04:49:47 AM
Isn't this the original style sending unit for a 69 with console gauges?
IIRC, that's the style without gauges.

Don't think so Kurt. I believe that is a later style, and when sold for an earlier car, you got the new connector. I believe the sender without gauges is the peg with a white insulator on the green wire. Hardly ever see one.

I have a couple of NOS ones, along with the correct connector. Thought I had pics, but can't find the pics right now.
Title: Re: 69 Temp sender with threads wire mounting sequence
Post by: lynnbilodeau on January 24, 2023, 04:29:32 AM: Pics with and without the connector attached.