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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: dannystarr on October 17, 2022, 02:54:11 PM

Title: 1969 Camaro Z/28
Post by: dannystarr on October 17, 2022, 02:54:11 PM: 109 Beautiful clear pictures from any distance. BUT WAIT... The front pad picture is SUPER blurry! And covered in 10 coats or more of paint. Funny watching these dealers sell a classic car. Seems like a pretty nice car. Already bid to 75K. ... Danny

VIN 124379N667796

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325381738887?hash=item4bc2435187:g:7VcAAOSwMNxjSI8R&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28
Post by: william on October 17, 2022, 03:02:51 PM: Worst VIN tag re-install, ever.
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28
Post by: dannystarr on October 17, 2022, 04:45:32 PM: William,
I saw that hanging way down. Didn't know you could do that bad of a job. I have never done it, but it sure looked wrong to me.
Danny
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28
Post by: Z282NV on October 17, 2022, 07:12:35 PM: Wow that is a very bad VIN install. But it can still be all yours for just $119,000 US. :-[
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28
Post by: 67L48 on October 17, 2022, 07:21:26 PM: Can you offer some insight into the consequence of the poorly installed VIN tag? Bad VIN install and therefore the car is fake? Or, bad VIN install and, otherwise, it's a nice car?
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28
Post by: bcmiller on October 17, 2022, 07:58:23 PM: Compare it to other known good VIN tags of that timeframe and you should get your answer.
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28
Post by: 67L48 on October 17, 2022, 08:09:06 PM: I don't know much about 69s. I know on 67s, it's not terribly uncommon to see VIN tags removed from the doors during restoration. It doesn't necessarily mean shenanigans were afoot. It might mean so, but it might just mean the restorer wasn't thinking about provenance. So, I guess the answer to my first question would be a solid, "No."
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28
Post by: william on October 17, 2022, 08:56:51 PM: Any DMV inspector will notice the incorrect rivets. Very least, you could end up with a state-assigned VIN label. Worst-case scenario, they impound the car as Iowa did a few years ago. People are far too casual about removing and re-installing VIN tags. Auction companies and dealers bear no responsibility; you are on your own if you can't register your new prize.

**VIN NOTICE: DEPENDING ON THE STATE OF REGISTRATION OF THE BUYER, THE VEHICLE MAY REQUIRE AN INSPECTION AND BE SUBJECT TO A STATE-ISSUED VIN AND/OR OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF THAT STATE.**
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28
Post by: lynnbilodeau on October 18, 2022, 01:46:27 AM: I don't see ANY rivets holding that vin tag on.
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28
Post by: Z282NV on October 18, 2022, 02:23:31 PM: Quote from: lynnbilodeau on October 18, 2022, 01:46:27 AM
I don't see ANY rivets holding that vin tag on.

True, probably undersized rivets and the VIN fell down. You can see evidence of some paint loss on the left hand rivet hole so there could have been something there working its way loose over time. Only way to know for sure is to get a more detailed picture down the rabbit hole.
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28
Post by: 169INDY on October 18, 2022, 07:14:48 PM: It could be a case of insufficient "reach" or length on the replacement rivets and they are cocked and barely gripping on the inner structure.

Funky for SURE!
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28
Post by: 68camaroz28 on October 18, 2022, 08:22:06 PM: Dang, unbelievable that would be ok to just leave that way.....
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28
Post by: Stingr69 on October 19, 2022, 01:39:32 PM: I suspect it has a dash panel replacement and the VIN tag is still attached to the original rusty dash panel. The new panel is on top and the original panel (rusted at front) is being forced down by the new panel. just guessing here.
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28
Post by: David K on October 20, 2022, 01:44:55 AM: There’s more red flags than the Daytona 500 during a rainstorm.