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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: WaltZ on June 13, 2022, 05:08:14 PM

Title: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: WaltZ on June 13, 2022, 05:08:14 PM
let's try this heading.
Anybody able to have 68 style factory headers on a 69 Z with the reverse lock out modified to work and also with power steering
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: 169INDY on June 13, 2022, 07:09:57 PM
Kustom Repop version from Colorado; (KH37)

I am not sure "IF" they have some still avail or had to mfr. another batch of these.

Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: WaltZ on June 13, 2022, 11:19:32 PM
nice, but can you still leave the reverse lock out linkage functional.
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: 169INDY on June 14, 2022, 12:31:21 AM
I am installing them on a 68.
I have a friend (& CRG-Member) that was interested in the same question. He consulted a crg core member whom indicated that even use of these on a 69 would require removal or major linkage Mods.
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: camaroboy68ss on June 14, 2022, 03:59:27 AM
I am installing them on a 68.
I have a friend (& CRG-Member) that was interested in the same question. He consulted a crg core member whom indicated that even use of these on a 69 would require removal or major linkage Mods.

yeah I dont see those fitting with the lockout and without taking a the ballpeen hammer to cleat a power steering box. Curious as well on the fit in a 68 as I have tossed the idea around on my car a few times.
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: Jonesy on June 15, 2022, 05:01:11 PM
I dont know of any headers made that fit a Camaro without removing the reverse linkage
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: Z10Mike on June 15, 2022, 10:47:18 PM
Agree with Jonesy. I installed my first set of headers on a '69 in 1974.  And I've never had headers that were compatible with a reverse lockout rod.  That lockout rod just wasn't a concern to us back then.   We would just wire up the lever so the column wouldn't lock and that was that.  The rod went into a take off parts box with the smog pump, tubes and manifolds for "someday". 
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: WaltZ on June 16, 2022, 12:51:51 PM
does anyone have pictures of the 68 headers installed on a 69. looking for driver side to see if a linkage rod can be made to work.
thanks
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: jdv69z on June 16, 2022, 01:34:01 PM
I have Dougs 1 5/8 headers, and my reverse lockout works. I do have a bell crank that I had custom made with an offset for the rod which goes to the reverse lever. If interested, I can take some pics.
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: x77-69z28 on June 16, 2022, 04:18:00 PM
I have Hooker headers, and my reverse lockout has always worked. I have power steering as well.
Buddy
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: WaltZ on June 16, 2022, 06:45:34 PM
Hey Jimmy and Buddy, could I ask you to post some pictures of the driverside and linkages,
Thanks
Walt
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: jdv69z on June 17, 2022, 02:11:16 PM
Will Do; Give me a couple of days.
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: x77-69z28 on June 17, 2022, 03:12:21 PM
I can send them to you. Not smart enough to post pics! Send me your email.
Buddy
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: Stingr69 on June 17, 2022, 09:10:26 PM
Seems to me we just tied it up at the steering column and added a backup light switch to the shifter linkage, but it has been a few years.  :)
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: x77-69z28 on June 20, 2022, 01:41:48 AM
Got your email Walt. Iíll get pics out to you tomorrow!
Buddy
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: plumL78 on June 20, 2022, 12:44:34 PM
I have hooker headers . I took my orig. bellcrank off and bought a ropo one . turn it around backwards and cut one arm off and welded it back where it needed to be  to work. I believe i also made the rod to the tranny a little longer becaused the bellcrank lever is futher away once it turned around.  That was 20+ years ago and still on the car working
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: vabeach56wagon on June 21, 2022, 05:43:18 PM
Can you share the PN and specs of the Hooker headers?

Thanks

paul
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: melav8r on June 21, 2022, 07:48:55 PM
Buy a reproduction bell crank (#3 in AIM) and cut off the arm/lever which attaches to the reverse rod (#6 in AIM) and weld it to the side closest to the frame. Basically reweld the arm outboard away from the header.
And I also run power steering.
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: jdv69z on June 21, 2022, 08:33:27 PM
Here's pics (not the clearest) of my 69 Z with Doug's 1 5/8 Headers. Fit without any issues. I used to have hooker headers, and I had to make a slightly modified bell crank to clear, but with the Doug's there were no issues.
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: plumL78 on June 21, 2022, 09:41:13 PM
no part # on my headers just says hooker competiton
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: red69 on June 23, 2022, 02:27:21 PM
Thank-you for the info, I've been running my car without lockout linkage since 1975. On my list to modify now!
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: WaltZ on June 24, 2022, 01:43:55 PM
Great replies and pictures. not sure when I will get to this, but when I do, I'll be sure to post the updated steps I uses to accomplish this.
I am still deciding on which headers to use, I would prefer to use the 1968 Z28 headers as first posted. 
Title: Re: 1969 302 headers with working reverse lock out linkage and power steering
Post by: Stingr69 on June 24, 2022, 01:48:39 PM
That is just so darn simple....I wish I had known that 40 years ago.  I run a smog type setup currently so I don't need it today, but who knows?  I still have some headers....  8)

Great post.