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Title: Black X22
Post by: Bob Jenkins on May 22, 2022, 02:40:14 AM
I was at a local cruise-in in my Camaro and saw a black with red hockey stick
stripe 1969 Camaro X-22. It has black standard interior, no console or tach. It was
raced most of it’s life. Original paint, interior, carpet. It was originally an L78
car but original engine and transmission long gone. The tail panel was painted
satin black?

Title: Re: Black X22
Post by: Charley on May 22, 2022, 03:28:36 PM
Looks like he added a spoiler and repainted the tail panel as evidenced by the way the masking was done where the 1/4 meets the tail panel near the weatherstrip.
Title: Re: Black X22
Post by: x66 714 on May 22, 2022, 03:37:48 PM
I Agree...Joe
Title: Re: Black X22
Post by: x55cam on May 22, 2022, 04:28:29 PM
Could be that the paint shop who did the job omitted painting the back panel semi-flat for BB's and the owner took it on his own to do it right?
Title: Re: Black X22
Post by: ko-lek-tor on May 22, 2022, 05:23:24 PM
Could be that the paint shop who did the job omitted painting the back panel semi-flat for BB's and the owner took it on his own to do it right?
Except, the consensus believes gloss black is correct for tail panel on bb cars. So owner did not do it “right”, according to the accepted standard.
Title: Re: Black X22
Post by: maroman on May 22, 2022, 06:45:50 PM
I thought it says original paint, interior and carpet?
Title: Re: Black X22
Post by: KurtS on May 23, 2022, 04:39:16 AM
From: http://www.camaros.org/exterior.shtml#BlackoutPaint
There was also a paint color exception for the SS-396 tailpan black-out, but it was limited to black vehicles and the Z11 and Z10. Black SS-396 cars would not have received the (semi-gloss) blacked-out tailpans. But it should be noted that a few original paint black SS-396's have been observed with blacked-out tailpanels - the paint difference is only visible at the paint tape line.

Title: Re: Black X22
Post by: Bob Jenkins on May 23, 2022, 04:35:39 PM
another picture
Title: Re: Black X22
Post by: Petes L48 on May 23, 2022, 04:56:03 PM
Any idea if it was a NOR or LOS / VN car?
Title: Re: Black X22
Post by: black69 on June 06, 2022, 07:41:38 PM
Great to see a car survive like this. Next time you see it, as it likely will show up again at your local show look closely at the painted hockey stripe, it will have these little tick marks from the stencil ever 1-2"s, not easy to spot.  New stencils don't have a way to replicate that (I think).  Pretty sure its original paint with the red oxide primer wear through on tops of fenders, but the stripe will be the best way to confirm. Once you look closely at it you will figure it out. Thanks for posting! Always love the rare silver grill ;)
Title: Re: Black X22
Post by: ko-lek-tor on June 08, 2022, 01:31:55 PM
…look closely at the painted hockey stripe, it will have these little tick marks from the stencil ever 1-2"s, not easy to spot. 
Wish I knew or could see what you are describing. Early b&w pic of D90 and my original paint D90
Title: Re: Black X22
Post by: x66 714 on June 08, 2022, 01:42:13 PM
Bentley, This might be what he's talking about. This is LH & RH on Guy Youndell's L78. It's about a foot back from the fromt of the fender...Joe
Title: Re: Black X22
Post by: firstgenaddict on June 12, 2022, 05:53:13 AM
The tick marks are from when the stencil was separated from the section to be painted, the original die had slight skips every 4"-6" in the cut, when the section to be striped is removed it leaves a little fuzzy tick which shows when the stripe is painted.

The silver car above shows the mismatch when the 2 part stencil was applied.

Steve Shauger had/has an early September 68 built IIRC which has a terrible mismatch of the 2 part stencil, the front part and rear part of the stencil dive down and almost come to a V shape where they meet.
Title: Re: Black X22
Post by: group/7 on June 13, 2022, 02:52:26 PM
How rare is the silver grill on an '69 RS car ? Was it part of a certain package when ordering, did it depend if it was a Z or regular

 Camaro ? I have two photos in my files, one of a Z and another of a 396 car, both in France with the silver RS grill.

Mike
Title: Re: Black X22
Post by: Vince on June 13, 2022, 04:08:07 PM
Others more knowledgeable than me might correct this, but to the best of my knowledge a silver grill on any RS 1969 Camaro only came with a black painted body.  I'm guessing the factory thought maybe the regular black RS grill was too much on a black car with the RS option. 
Title: Re: Black X22
Post by: KurtS on June 15, 2022, 06:22:59 PM
Grille info: http://www.camaros.org/exterior.shtml#1969Grille
Title: Re: Black X22
Post by: x55cam on June 21, 2022, 09:19:25 PM
Could be that the paint shop who did the job omitted painting the back panel semi-flat for BB's and the owner took it on his own to do it right?
Except, the consensus believes gloss black is correct for tail panel on bb cars. So owner did not do it “right”, according to the accepted standard.
Well I'm not one to go with the consensus for the reason being that , being the old dude that I am, have seen black 69's from the show room floor with satin black tail
panels. Matter of fact,  back in the 60's I lived right next to a dirt lot that the Chevy dealer across from my apt. would use to park the new vehicles. I hi-tail it  their
to check out all the 67-69 Camaros - SS's, Z28's , RS's .Who's to say that at some point Chevy decided to change the color combo for the trim but I can only go by what I have seen. 
Miss those days.