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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: dannystarr on November 11, 2021, 04:38:33 PM

Title: 1969 Camaro Z/28 on BAT
Post by: dannystarr on November 11, 2021, 04:38:33 PM
This is about to close up bidding. Does this stamp look original?.   Danny
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 on BAT
Post by: dannystarr on November 11, 2021, 05:25:40 PM
Here it is..

   https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-chevrolet-camaro-z-28-61/?utm_source=transactionalemail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=bat_tagged_comment#comment-7272457
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 on BAT
Post by: Hans L on November 11, 2021, 08:04:48 PM
It has a Jerry MacNeish Cert of Authenticity that appears real - Jerry states original drive line and trim tag.  Its a good deal now, but assuming the price jumps in the final hours. 

https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/1969_chevrolet_camaro_z28_1635798221033ec0d163243100769cca1eb50777IMG_4925-1.jpeg?w=465&resize=465%2C620
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 on BAT
Post by: dannystarr on November 11, 2021, 08:45:54 PM
Talked to Jerry, got all my answers... Danny
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 on BAT
Post by: rocco376 on November 11, 2021, 11:46:10 PM
Danny, can you share?  I had some concerns about the vagueness of Jerry's report.  Never said that the engine was original, just showed casting numbers.
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 on BAT
Post by: dannystarr on November 12, 2021, 02:51:21 AM
I too, am not used to seeing the word "original" missing. Especially when there was room on the trans part of the line to write it. Jerry owned the car and sold it in 2016 to a guy in Boston. One of his clients. I am not at liberty to say who the buyer is or the selling price, nor can I share anymore. I would say if ya have any questions, I would suggest talking to Jerry. ... Danny
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 on BAT
Post by: CantRepeat on November 12, 2021, 09:59:45 AM
That's a very crisp engine stamp for a 50 year old car.
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 on BAT
Post by: CantRepeat on November 12, 2021, 10:09:01 AM
It has a Jerry MacNeish Cert of Authenticity that appears real - Jerry states original drive line and trim tag.  Its a good deal now, but assuming the price jumps in the final hours. 

https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/1969_chevrolet_camaro_z28_1635798221033ec0d163243100769cca1eb50777IMG_4925-1.jpeg?w=465&resize=465%2C620

So Jerry certs it be a Z28 original trans and rear end but makes no mention of original born with engine like he does all his certs?

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Just wondering about the first page of the Jerry MacNeish reports. On the engine line, he typically puts “original” when the engine is original to the car. It only shows the block and head casting information. The rear and trans both mention original. Is this the original engine?

If it was proven that he did commit fraud on one of his certs it would end his business. I'm not saying that's the case here because he clearly doesn't say it's original. But, lying by omission is still a lie.
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 on BAT
Post by: camaronut on November 14, 2021, 01:34:12 AM
Does the car come with a mysterious black cloud hovering over it?  ;)
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 on BAT
Post by: rocco376 on November 14, 2021, 02:09:41 AM
This was the seller's answer when the question about the report was posed.

"This vehicle has it’s complete matching numbers drive train including the engine, we have posted picture of the vin hidden down by the oil filter and you can read the numbers. I’m not sure about the wording on the report but this is the original engine."
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 on BAT
Post by: KurtS on November 14, 2021, 08:18:25 PM
It's a good pad stamping. But the omission of the 'original' statement on two different appraisals is strange.