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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Garage Talk => Topic started by: CantRepeat on May 13, 2021, 12:41:38 PM

Title: 500k for yenko Camaro without the original engine?
Post by: CantRepeat on May 13, 2021, 12:41:38 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265057678364


I know 67 Yenko Camaros are rare, but without the born with engine isn't this a bit much?

The dealer does seem to be a bit out of touch with their pricing on other vehicles as well.
Title: Re: 500k for yenko Camaro without the original engine?
Post by: 69Z28-RS on May 13, 2021, 02:55:32 PM
I'd rather have a nice 6-cyl - 3 speed Camaro with original engine than a 'fake anything camaro'...
Title: Re: 500k for yenko Camaro without the original engine?
Post by: crossboss on May 13, 2021, 04:58:35 PM
Its being sold by a typical wheeler dealer pitchmen. They can 'ask' whatever they want, doesn't mean they will get it. However, some rich guy with more money than sense might buy it. Time will tell...
Title: Re: 500k for yenko Camaro without the original engine?
Post by: maroman on May 13, 2021, 11:15:00 PM
Didn't we just talk about this car a few months ago? And, unless I am wrong it couldn't have the born with engine as all Yenkos were transplant from 396s to 427's.
Title: Re: 500k for yenko Camaro without the original engine?
Post by: MO on May 14, 2021, 01:49:31 AM
YS709, sold new at Central Chevrolet, West Springfield, MA.

Converted cars did not retain there original engines and received 427's. Not all of them started out as 396's in 1967. There are known non converted cars that still retain their original (I dislike the term, but) "born with" engines.

Sellers like this typically price their cars higher than the market. Especially now with the "pandemic" buying frenzy. Many of the remaining cars do not have their Yenko installed engines and the prices are still through the roof. It's been quite a few years, but the last 67 Yenko I remember, sold for around 400k; NOM. That was an auction, no idea what private party sales are going for.
Title: Re: 500k for yenko Camaro without the original engine?
Post by: CantRepeat on May 14, 2021, 10:06:33 AM
When I say born with, I mean the motor that Yenko put in the car when it was originally converted.
Title: Re: 500k for yenko Camaro without the original engine?
Post by: bcmiller on May 14, 2021, 05:56:25 PM
 There are so many terms mid-used.

“Original” should only refer to the factory installed engine. As far as 67 and 68, the 427s should be considered “originally transplanted” engines.
Title: Re: 500k for yenko Camaro without the original engine?
Post by: MO on May 15, 2021, 03:00:16 AM
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There are so many terms mid-used.

“Original” should only refer to the factory installed engine. As far as 67 and 68, the 427s should be considered “originally transplanted” engines.

Agreed Bryon.

No worries Tim. The terms mean different things to different people. If only we could all get on the same page to end the confusion. Unfortunately, a lot of sellers want that confusion in order to insolate themselves from responsibility.
Title: Re: 500k for yenko Camaro without the original engine?
Post by: firstgenaddict on May 18, 2021, 11:38:08 PM
Unless the CE or other number were noted on the car's paperwork there is really no way to tell WHICH particular 427 short block was installed.
Title: Re: 500k for yenko Camaro without the original engine?
Post by: camaroboy68ss on May 19, 2021, 01:49:41 AM
Unless the CE or other number were noted on the car's paperwork there is really no way to tell WHICH particular 427 short block was installed.

If an original 67 Yenko, I thought all the 67s had full motor swaps and then in 68 they just swapped the short blocks?
Title: Re: 500k for yenko Camaro without the original engine?
Post by: firstgenaddict on May 19, 2021, 05:44:25 AM
As far as I knew the later 67 Yenkos were ordered with L78's and short block swapped. Obviously prior to end of March there were no L78's - so complete L72 engines would have been only way to go. 
Title: Re: 500k for yenko Camaro without the original engine?
Post by: Kelley W King on May 19, 2021, 12:36:22 PM
I guess the price is in line with the collection of parts with a transfered ZL1 vin tag.
Title: Re: 500k for yenko Camaro without the original engine?
Post by: firstgenaddict on May 21, 2021, 02:34:51 PM
IMHO Deepwater over Blue is one of the best looking combos available on a 67. 
Finding solid lifter Hi-Po cars with interiors other than black are few and far between.
Title: Re: 500k for yenko Camaro without the original engine?
Post by: bcmiller on May 21, 2021, 05:46:45 PM
Unless the CE or other number were noted on the car's paperwork there is really no way to tell WHICH particular 427 short block was installed.

Correct. And most of the 67s would not have CE stamped blocks - if installed prior to the start of the CE stampings which started between mid to late August and early September 1967.
Title: Re: 500k for yenko Camaro without the original engine?
Post by: MO on May 22, 2021, 01:11:12 AM
The last 1967 Yenko was built in July, so it's doubtful any 67's were built with CE's. It's possible that CE warranty replacement's could have been installed in 67 Yenko's post the start of CE production.