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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: fiveforty on December 05, 2005, 10:19:40 AM

Title: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: fiveforty on December 05, 2005, 10:19:40 AM
I've looked at alot of cars that were suppose to be nice that were junk and cars that were suppose to be matching # and real that were fake. Is there a way to check the database. Also there is one that I think you would like to have entered into your database. Thanks. Leo.
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: KurtS on December 05, 2005, 09:57:35 PM
The database (which includes all 67-9 models, not just Z's) is not public.
Just post the VIN here or send it via email.
Thanks!
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: 70L34 on December 19, 2005, 11:13:28 PM
Kurt, anything on N531196? Just curious. Thanks, Tony (anausied@hotmail.com)
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: KurtS on December 20, 2005, 05:52:26 AM
No, 70 VIN's away is the closest.  :P
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: KurtS on December 31, 2005, 10:14:09 PM
To clarify, the db has been laboriously created over the years from various sources. These include observed cars (car shows, ebay, etc), posted or submitted data, and documentation. Most of the data consists of the #'s off of the cars; as you'd expect, most cars don't have documentation.

Even at over 10,000 cars in the db, we still have only 1.5% of the first gen Camaros.
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: fiveforty on January 01, 2006, 09:41:17 PM
I have the info of a POS i was suppose to buy off ebay. Was told it was code 71 Lemans Blue and all matching #s, original panels no rust When I went to pick up the car the tag read code 72 Hugger Orange and the motor was restamped, wrong transmission, carb, pulleys, distributor, intake, angle plug heads and a scattershield. Hacked on quarters and the trunk pan was wrinkled and straightened from being hit in the rear. Let me know. 
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: HILROD on January 04, 2006, 02:13:15 AM
Is there anything on VIN 9n644586 or9n645886? Two numbers double stamped pad is very rough. Thanks
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: KurtS on January 04, 2006, 03:39:39 AM
No, nothing on either of those VINs. :(
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: ckresto on January 15, 2006, 11:01:39 AM
Her's a number to check.  9N642404
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: 32fordcpe on January 15, 2006, 06:44:56 PM
Is there anything on 9N524795
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: KurtS on January 15, 2006, 08:40:23 PM
No, nothing on those VINs.
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: ed on January 17, 2006, 04:20:44 AM
hi i'm Ed from holland and would like to have some info about vin 124379N516157 thanks
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: KurtS on January 17, 2006, 07:16:59 AM
Hi Ed,
Sorry, nothing on that VIN.
As I said above, unless we've run across the car or documentation on the car, it's not likely to be in there. No problem checking. :)
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: blownz on January 25, 2006, 12:47:06 AM
Kurt, I have owned my 69  Z for 27  yrs, the vin is 124379N613224.  It has a build date of 02D and I had the rear out of it this weekend, it date coded 12/8/68.  It also is cooded BT for 3:55.  It is the same rear that has been in the car since I have owned it.  I also have a late December DZ motor, even though it is not a numbers matching, could it be considered the correct date code? 

Thanks, Wayne
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: KurtS on January 25, 2006, 04:47:13 AM
Wayne,
Not in that timeframe. They were running all out then, parts came in and went right into a car. They didn't sit around.  I had to go back 43,000 cars before yours to see an axle with a date close to that......
Coded correct, but not dated correct, IMO. Not to say that some judging standards wouldn't say it was acceptable.
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: blownz on January 26, 2006, 09:57:04 PM
Kurt, Thank you for the info!

Wayne
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: rsatz28 on January 28, 2006, 01:54:11 AM
I've had for 10 years what I think is a 69Z.  There are several reason why I think that I do even though I don't have documentation.   I don't believe the trim tag was switched.

According to several resources, my car (11A (68) build date) should have an early trim plate.  But yet it looks like I have a late trim plate.  N535006

ST69 12437 NOR168192
TR 711  72 B
11A

Kurt any thoughts?
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: KurtS on January 29, 2006, 05:16:04 AM
The size of the trim tag is not an indicator whether or not it's a Z. I've seen other 11A cars with the large trim tag, including L6 cars.
Hope this helps....
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: rsatz28 on January 29, 2006, 03:38:26 PM
Kurt, I guess I muddied the waters when I tossed in the Z-28 part. 

My question was on the timing of the early trim vs the into of the late tag on Norwood cars.

By most accounts, my 11A car should have an early trim tag, but yet I have a late tag. From what Ive read ithe late trim tag was introduced the last week in November 68.  So this is just one of the unique aspects of car building in the 60's?

Would it be a suprise that the partial VIN is stamped down by the oill filter? I understand this was not done until Jan 69

Also, do you have any listing on my VIN? (N535006)

Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: KurtS on January 30, 2006, 05:45:14 AM
I didn't have anything on your car.
Down by the oil filter is surprising. What's the engine date?
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: rsatz28 on February 04, 2006, 10:31:00 PM
Kurt,

I have a 386 block stamped VI029DZ.  In addition, the rear end is stamped BU1022G1 E
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: KurtS on February 05, 2006, 06:40:42 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: Ericamaro on September 06, 2006, 02:56:01 AM
how about 124379 l519557
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: KurtS on September 06, 2006, 03:52:07 AM
No, some cars really close, but not that one.
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: jdv69z on September 06, 2006, 02:26:38 PM
Hi Kurt,

I have a 69 Z that I've owned since 1982, and I know is not in your data base. Do you want info to add?

Jimmy V
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: KurtS on September 07, 2006, 04:59:41 AM
Yes, especially if you have any original drivetrain #'s. KurtS2@peoplepc.com

Thanks!
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: jdv69z on September 07, 2006, 11:11:14 AM
Kurt,

I have all original drive train parts. What do you want - casting dates, assembly dates, etc.? I can email a spreadsheet, or?

Jimmy V
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: Gambitt on September 07, 2006, 12:31:31 PM
Kurt,

What about an 04C car?  How close was the drivetrain date codes to the week the car was made?  Thanks.
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: KurtS on September 11, 2006, 05:16:50 AM
Jimmy,
A spreadsheet would be fine.
Thanks!

Gambitt,
Like most of 69, close. Depends on what component, some are even closer than others.
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: Gambitt on September 13, 2006, 02:44:13 AM
Yeah, I had heard that...I might be wrong, but I think I remember hearing that distributors were much closer to the build date.  I am looking to put my car back close to original...and I located a C269 block, so I figure that is as close as I will ever come.  Thanks for the info.

  Gambitt
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: GaryL on September 13, 2006, 03:41:33 AM
Yeah, I had heard that...I might be wrong, but I think I remember hearing that distributors were much closer to the build date. I am looking to put my car back close to original...and I located a C269 block, so I figure that is as close as I will ever come. Thanks for the info.

 Gambitt

This thread over at Team Camaro seems to suggest approximately 2 weeks for engines. Both V1I19DZ engines had early December VINS.
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=89920
Title: Re: 69 Z28 Database
Post by: KurtS on September 13, 2006, 05:48:39 AM
I wouldn't sweat a cast date.  That's getting pretty close to what I'd expect.