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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Restoration => Topic started by: DAVEN1256 on March 06, 2021, 09:05:29 PM
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I have a Hays Borg and Beck style three finger 10.5 inch clutch that was bought back in the mid 80's. The clutch itself is fine but it needs a new disc.
What I need is a disc for a 10.5 inch GM clutch with a 1 1/8 inch diameter 10 spline shaft.
I went to Hayes' website and looked on their clutch disc page for a replacement. There is no such disc shown! They do however, offer a GM Classic Street Clutch kit, Borg and Beck style, disc included, that is 10.5 inches, and also for a 1 1/8 inch, 10 spline shaft.
So I called the Hays tech support line and asked why they don't offer this disc alone when they make a clutch kit that includes what appears to be the disc I am looking for. The guy there said the disc from the kit is not offered as a stand alone part and even though the dimensions match, it still might not be correct for a clutch from the mid 80's.
I have no paperwork from my clutch showing the part number of the disc and there is no part number stamped on it. It's only stamped "Made in the USA" and has a letter "C" all by itself. It does have six springs where as most discs I see have only five.
Doing some research, I do see some Hays discs for sale from vendors other than Hays that look like they may be what I'm looking for. They have the six springs and are Hays part number 55-111. Even though, you have it listed, some vendors say not available or sold out so it may be the last of some NOS stuff.
Can anyone verify if P/N 55-111 would be correct for this clutch, or if not, what would be a suitable replacement f or it?
Thanks......Dave
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The clutch itself is fine but it needs a new disc.
I'm confused. Looks like some of the clutch material detached. That's not usable.
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I think he means the pressure plate and flywheel are OK, but the clutch disk needs to be replaced (most definitely!).. :)
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For $120, you can get a new *kit*. Guaranteed to match. :)
https://www.summitracing.com/search/brand/luk-clutch/part-type/clutch-kits/year/1969/make/chevrolet/model/camaro
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I agree, Kurt... He should buy the LUK kit (pressure plate and clutch disk).. they *work*... :)
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Thanks for the suggestions on the LUK clutches. I'm not familiar with them. The engine I am getting is 420 HP, 450 FT LBS of torque. Will the LUK clutch handle that OK?
How are the LUK clutches on feel? One of the things I like about my Hays is that it has somewhat of a heavy feel. Not too heavy but when you press it, you definitely know there's something there!...I like that!!! I don't like a clutch that feels like a powder puff when you press it down.
Even though my Hays is 30 plus years old, it doesn't have very many miles on it...... I would still like to try to find a new disc for it, if possible, before resorting to a whole new clutch.
Thanks......Dave
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I run a 12 inch Luk “truck” clutch behind my big block (500+ hp depending on the carb and timing setup) and it works fine. They are good quality.
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You should be able to find a suitable replacement at any GOOD auto parts store,,,,nothing fancy or proprietary about a 10 1/2 clutch
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I have a 2014 ZL1 engine and 6 speed. It has a LUK clutch in it from the factory.
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Sorry it took me so long to get back to this thread.....Thanks for all the replies.
It seems like the LUK clutches get good marks. How are they on feel? Can you tell there's something there when you press into it or is it effortless. I know that's subjective question and that ten people can have ten different opinions of the same clutch.
Like I mentioned before, I like a clutch that feels like you have to put at least a little effort into it. I don't like it when you press a clutch and it goes effortlessly to the floor. That's just my preference.
Thanks.....Dave