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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: usa1ti on January 06, 2021, 04:30:40 PM
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Is the "GM official production date" on the NCRS shipping report the date the car was finished assembled?, left Norwood? or arrived at the shipping dealer?
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Good question - we've discussed this before, I'd like to know as two of my Camaros fall into the "dead" NCRS shipping reports gap in the '69 model year, although I have the MSO for one of them. I'd like to think the paperwork was created when the car was released for shipping to the dealer, which should be within a day (?) of the completed assembly coming off the production line, which would have included the MSO and the shipping document (maybe) at the same time.
I do have an additional MSO/dealer invoice car, my '68 Z: I've never sent for the NCRS report as I have the dealer invoice for the car with options fully listed. If I wasn't so cheap, I could add to the conversation if I could verify the two documents were created at the same time. Hopefully we'll get a definitive answer -
Regards,
Steve
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The NCRS date is most likely the day the car completed final assembly. I have dealer invoice info and NCRS on the same car. NCRS date was the day prior to 'date shipped' on the invoice.
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When I ordered the shipper report on my car in 2014, I asked about the official production date, the response was that it was the date the vehicle was released from the internal production system and was considered finished; not necessarily that it had shipped from the assembly plant, but likely linked to generating the dealer invoice and the shipping company being notified.
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I have a page from 68.
The date columns are titled Date Produced and Invoice Date.
Date Produced doesn't change on the page. Invoice Date bounces around anywhere from 1 to 7 days after Date Produced, normally 2-3 days.
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I have a page from 68.
The date columns are titled Date Produced and Invoice Date.
Date Produced doesn't change on the page. Invoice Date bounces around anywhere from 1 to 7 days after Date Produced, normally 2-3 days.
Any correlation to the MSO ? Was that produced at the same time as the shipper, or prior ? I'd like to judge when my Z made it to the dealer (the dealer invoice to the first owner is one month past the MSO date).
Regards,
Steve
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Here's some examples
8L332247 02E
NCRS date 3/13/1968
Ship date 3/15/1968 (shipper's invoice)
Date of execution 3/18/1968 (shipper's invoice KL193--)
8L332262 02E
NCRS date 3/13/1968
MSO date 3/18/1968 KL19379
I'm guessing the date of execution is the date it was billed to the receiving dealer
9N677163 08E 1969
NCRS date 8/28/1969
MSO date 9/4/1969 KN15878
I don't know if any of this might help...Joe
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I have a 09D OF 68 BUILD and have heard that a lot of the early built 69 Camaros are not listed with them no information available ?
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I have an 05A 69 Norwood car.
NCRS Ship Date is 05/01/1969.
Shipper Date is 05/02/69. On this document the Date of Execution is 05/05/69.
I also have the dealers "New Car Record" (inventory). It shows a Date Received as 05/05/69. Location is Marion VA. (Western end of state, so not too far from Norwood OH.
Date Sold was 07/08/69. So it was a dealer order car, not a customer order.
Rich
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9N677163 08E 1969
NCRS date 8/28/1969
MSO date 9/4/1969 KN15878
I guess I should've noted that this car didn't sell until 7/29/1970. I was guessing this car might've been a dealer demo.
Probably had to find the right person for a yellow interior car :)
...Joe
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I have a 09D OF 68 BUILD and have heard that a lot of the early built 69 Camaros are not listed with them no information available ?
Stretches back a ways - I have two in the gap, a 12A Norwood and an 01C Norwood (fortunately MSO and dealer invoice on the 01C X77). Sure do wish I had the NCRS dealer report on the 12A, NM JH coded SS, from Chicago area. Just my luck -
Regards,
Steve
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I have a 09D OF 68 BUILD and have heard that a lot of the early built 69 Camaros are not listed with them no information available ?
The home page for the website www.chevymuscledocs.com states:
We are missing the following data:
1969 Camaro 9N508855 to 9N587275