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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: ericisback on September 10, 2020, 04:02:54 PM

Title: Chevy Muscle Docs
Post by: ericisback on September 10, 2020, 04:02:54 PM
I am following a BAT auction here:


https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-chevrolet-camaro-z-28-14/ (https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-chevrolet-camaro-z-28-14/)


(Nice car by the way)


In the description of the auction, it mentions information from the Chevy Muscle Docs[/size] report that is quite extensive:[/color]
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https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/1969_chevrolet_camaro_z28_15986479602db17601969_chevrolet_camaro_z28_15986465327ed9e72efc553BF4BD-39CC-4310-BEE2-F18189E6E8EE-scaled-1.jpeg?w=465&resize=465%2C620 (https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/1969_chevrolet_camaro_z28_15986479602db17601969_chevrolet_camaro_z28_15986465327ed9e72efc553BF4BD-39CC-4310-BEE2-F18189E6E8EE-scaled-1.jpeg?w=465&resize=465%2C620)


I was under the impression that the Chevy muscle docs only showed the original dealer delivery location?!?  Can you get this detailed information for any 1st gen Camaro?
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Title: Re: Chevy Muscle Docs
Post by: BULLITT65 on September 10, 2020, 05:37:33 PM
Ok, so why are the drive train components dated after the car build?
Title: Re: Chevy Muscle Docs
Post by: william on September 10, 2020, 06:09:03 PM
The date on the body tag is only a general indicator of a cars' final-assembly date. The tag was produced by Fisher body shortly after the production order was released. Fisher generally observed an ABCD sequence but not always; not at all unusual for them to skip weeks. February-March '69 at Norwood was one of those periods. There was no 02C or 03A. 02D tags span February 19-March 14.

The data sheet shown was compiled by the cars' owner and did not come from Chevy Muscle Docs. Since N614034 was final-assembled on or about March 13, the drivetrain component dates listed could be original to the car.
Title: Re: Chevy Muscle Docs
Post by: BULLITT65 on September 10, 2020, 06:10:31 PM
Very good info. Thanks Wiliam
Title: Re: Chevy Muscle Docs
Post by: Danzo on September 10, 2020, 10:08:25 PM
Multiple discussions about this car.

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=162752
https://www.camaros.net/threads/1969-camaro-z-28-build-date.466385/#post-1783188395
Title: Re: Chevy Muscle Docs
Post by: GMAD_Van Nuys on September 13, 2020, 10:37:33 PM
Some interesting comments being posted on BAT, especially about the warranty card.  I remember looking at a car where someone had glued the original warranty card plate onto the inside of the driver's door and the owner hadn't noticed it even after 33 years!
Title: Re: Chevy Muscle Docs
Post by: 69Z28-RS on September 14, 2020, 01:42:55 PM
Some interesting comments being posted on BAT, especially about the warranty card.  I remember looking at a car where someone had glued the original warranty card plate onto the inside of the driver's door and the owner hadn't noticed it even after 33 years!

That would be an interesting photo..  if you had one of it..  :)
Title: Re: Chevy Muscle Docs
Post by: GMAD_Van Nuys on September 17, 2020, 08:28:29 PM
According to the information below, the engine and transmission were stamped at the same time, using a "gang-stamp holder":

http://www.camaros.org/assemblyprocess.shtml

The stamping on this 1969 Z28 engine and transmission don't look like they were made with the same "gang-stamp holder."
Title: Re: Chevy Muscle Docs
Post by: william on September 17, 2020, 09:06:31 PM
According to the information below, the engine and transmission were stamped at the same time, using a "gang-stamp holder":

For reasons unknown, some engines/transmissions were not VIN stamped at the same time. Those stampings will not have the same appearance.