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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Restoration => Topic started by: Edgemontvillage on June 21, 2020, 05:09:23 AM

Title: 1969 Camaro Front Power Disc / Rear Drum Brake Clips
Post by: Edgemontvillage on June 21, 2020, 05:09:23 AM
I just completed the restoration of the brake clips for my 1969 RS Z/28 Project. My research lead me to a few, incomplete threads on CRG so I thought I would contribute a comprehensive reference thread in case others can benefit from this information in future. All clips shown are original and restored, none are reproduction. All bolts are manganese phosphated and as there are several threads on CRG that discuss where to source phosphating solution and how to convert fasteners I won't address that process.The black chromate fasteners (3 - double hoop style) are first clear (silver) zinc plated followed by a black chromate immersion solution. The result is similar to low-gloss black paint however more durable and it doesn't flake or chip. The finish is also similar to Black Oxide immersion solution (which does not require zinc plating) and both are available from electroplating suppliers like Caswell. For the semi-transparent blue and green clips I used Steel F/X metal solvent dye. Its best to apply it with a low pressure air brush. It dries quickly and produces a fairly durable flat sheen finish. I applied two light coats. I've include a color coded (by clip) reference from the AIM as well as photos I took at MCACN of some original cars with undisturbed clips to show the location and orientation of each clip.

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Front Subframe Cross Member Clips
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Black Chromate Double Hoop Style Clips
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Semi-Transparent Blue Dye Clips
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The single Semi-Transparent Green Dye Clip
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Clear Zinc Clip
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Color Coded Clip Reference Locations
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Original Clips - shown in order from back to front of car (along left /driver's side)

Position 1: Black Chromate Double Hoop - Left of Differential
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Position 2: Semi-Transparent Blue Dye - Rear Inside Frame Rail
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Position 3: Black Chromate Double Hoop - Underbody, bolted to floor
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Position 4: Black Chromate Double Hoop - Underbody, bolted to bracket stand 
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Transition Between Position 3 & 4 clips
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Position 5: Shown on AIM however not used for Power Disc / Drum Brakes

Brake Line Routing Between Position 4 clip and Proportioning Valve
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Proportioning Valve - Outside Sub Frame Rail between Position 4 and 6 Clips
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Position 6: Semi Transparent Blue Dye - Sub Frame Rail Front
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Position 7: Semi Transparent Blue Dye - Inside Sub Frame Rail
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The following 3 clips are Bolted to the Firewall side of the Sub Frame Cross Member

Left Position: Semi Transparent Green Dye
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Center-Left Position: Clear Zinc
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Center-Right Position: Clear Zinc
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Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Front Power Disc / Rear Drum Brake Clips
Post by: Danzo on June 21, 2020, 10:40:37 AM
Phenomenal write up Lloyd! Should either be put in the research topics or made a sticky!
Doc
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Front Power Disc / Rear Drum Brake Clips
Post by: KevinW on June 21, 2020, 12:19:18 PM
I agree, fantastic info!
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Front Power Disc / Rear Drum Brake Clips
Post by: Edgemontvillage on June 23, 2020, 04:58:07 PM
Phenomenal write up Lloyd! Should either be put in the research topics or made a sticky!
Doc
I agree, fantastic info!

Thanks for the feedback gents.

Lloyd
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Front Power Disc / Rear Drum Brake Clips
Post by: BillG on June 25, 2020, 12:50:28 AM
Awesome, detailed research!  Thank you Lloyd.
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Front Power Disc / Rear Drum Brake Clips
Post by: ko-lek-tor on June 25, 2020, 10:58:47 AM
So thankful for the LCs of this world. Great job!
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Front Power Disc / Rear Drum Brake Clips
Post by: Edgemontvillage on June 26, 2020, 12:33:22 PM
For the sake of completeness, below are the restored and fasteners (differential brake hose connection to master cylinder - rear to front) and proportioning valve.

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Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Front Power Disc / Rear Drum Brake Clips
Post by: firstgenaddict on June 26, 2020, 03:50:53 PM
God those are beautiful clips Lloyd.

What finish did you use on the one below the mastercylinder?
The "gang clamp"
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I believe I left it natural steel however now I believe it may have been zinc plated originally.
Title: Re: 1969 Camaro Front Power Disc / Rear Drum Brake Clips
Post by: Edgemontvillage on June 26, 2020, 05:13:42 PM
God those are beautiful clips Lloyd.

What finish did you use on the one below the mastercylinder?
The "gang clamp"

I believe I left it natural steel however now I believe it may have been zinc plated originally.


James, thanks for your comments. I'm not convinced if the clamp ("gang clamp") was natural steel or plated. None I've seen have been pristine enough to make a good determination. I opted to electroplate mine silver cad which could pass for either. 

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