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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Restoration => Topic started by: ALLZS on February 17, 2020, 09:53:30 PM

Title: wiper motor restoration
Post by: ALLZS on February 17, 2020, 09:53:30 PM
WHO IS DOING GOOD WIPER MOTOR RESTORATIONS
Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: z28z11 on February 18, 2020, 04:36:44 AM
Search the site - there are several people here that can help you if I remember correctly. I've done a couple of 5045605's myself, but not as a restoration service (strictly for resale).

Looking for a 5045572 ? Here's one that looks to be a pretty decent example. The 5045605's I see online are pretty pricey even as cores.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevy-Camaro-Wiper-Motor-2-Speed-Original-GM/233254915110?hash=item364f138c26%3Ag%3AbuIAAOSwwIRdABzm&LH_ItemCondition=4

Regards,
Steve
Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: ZLP955 on February 18, 2020, 09:20:40 AM
Wondering if that foil label was added as part of the restoration. Haven't seen one dated prior to the 1969 calendar year before, and the size, location and orientation of the label seem to differ. That said, the data points used in the thread on this subject are very small, so can't draw any conclusions.
Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: usa1ti on June 24, 2021, 11:55:23 AM
I know this is an older topic but info just for the community. Just got my wiper motor back for my Z. It was 1 notch above junk but the original to the car. Classsic Wipers, Travelers rest SC did a very nice first class job. Had to rebuild just about everything including the pump. He had original GM small parts to go back into it. Reasonable price. Did have to wait forever but well worth it.  sam@classicwipers.com.
Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: MO on June 26, 2021, 03:46:35 PM
I know this is an older topic but info just for the community. Just got my wiper motor back for my Z. It was 1 notch above junk but the original to the car. Classsic Wipers, Travelers rest SC did a very nice first class job. Had to rebuild just about everything including the pump. He had original GM small parts to go back into it. Reasonable price. Did have to wait forever but well worth it.  sam@classicwipers.com.

Thanks for providing that very helpful info for others.
Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: controlledperformance on July 14, 2021, 11:23:07 PM
Steve Hackel does the restoration on wiper motors.
Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: Krateness on July 20, 2021, 09:35:36 PM
Steve Hackel does the restoration on wiper motors.

Funny this came up but I was just searching for someone to do my 5045572 motor. I checked his website but doesn’t look like anything’s changed since 2013. I emailed him but just wondering if anyone’s had anything done recently?
Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: controlledperformance on July 29, 2021, 11:56:21 PM
I just had my 5045572 wiper motor rebuilt by Steve. He waits until he get a few and then does them all. Great job on the rivets. I think he is the only one doing these type of motors.
Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: Edgemontvillage on July 30, 2021, 12:26:30 AM
I just had my 5045572 wiper motor rebuilt by Steve. He waits until he get a few and then does them all. Great job on the rivets. I think he is the only one doing these type of motors.

Please post a couple of photos of his work, we'd like to see it.
Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: controlledperformance on August 07, 2021, 01:42:51 PM
I tried to post pictures, but the site told me my files are too large.
Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: z28z11 on August 07, 2021, 03:52:27 PM
I tried to post pictures, but the site told me my files are too large.

Download Light Image Resizer (trial usage is free for quite a few pics) - allows you to easily resize the pics to meet the site parameters. Save your originals into downloads, docs or pics, run them through and then post 'em. Easy -

Regards,
Steve
Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: Red955i on October 18, 2021, 01:53:30 PM
Steve Hackle's Work... (I just got mine back from him)
Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: z28z11 on October 18, 2021, 05:41:05 PM
Looks pretty good, don't forget the tag. Coil bracket should be zinc dichromate, labeled with GM part number, manufacturer and date of production and assembly date coded. Motor screws are new and appear to be a larger head than originals. Not being critical, just suggesting, as I don't know what your level of restoration needs are.

Regards,
Steve

Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: Red955i on October 18, 2021, 08:50:59 PM
He re-affixed my original tag. Thanks for input !
Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: Red955i on October 18, 2021, 11:17:33 PM
Steve....hope I can pick your brain since you were quick to spot these faults. While I seriously doubt anyone would open it up to look, I am one of those people that now that they know something is incorrect, it will drive me nuts. Both because its wrong, and in this case, because I was to lazy to open in up and take pics of the inside before sending it off.  So I see Heartbeat City sells the coil & bracket as a reproduction for $49 they claim are correctly plated and dated. Are they? They seem to only offer certain dates. I assume these were most likely made in batched and with my unit dated the 37th day of 1969 (Feb 6) I ok with the Jan 3rd date. Would you agree? For $50 I would just as soon replace it, if its correct. Last but not least...would you know the correct part # for the screws you believe to be incorrect?  Many thanks Bob
Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: z28z11 on October 19, 2021, 03:16:33 AM
Picking my brain won't take very long, I assure you -

Hopefully I can relate what I've learned after dealing with these motors since buying my Pace Car in '94. Only options at that time were used units, no reproduction of any valve and coils at all. I searched high and low for pieces and parts, even attempted to have the valve reproduced by an injection molder, which proved too costly for me to undertake (mold was $20K +). I still have a GM produced print of the valve, but the current reproductions are really good and not very expensive as things go. Features and material colors are pretty darn close -

I use the original bolts for the motor housing - they were oxide finish, and painted with the housing, not zinc finished that I've ever seen ( I bead blast mine and paint with the motor). Crown of the original bolt is about half the height of the ones in your pic. Coils were batch dated; Heartbeat's dates are good, although the fonts are incorrect (if the pic I've included is clear enough, the October date on my coil is an original GM ink stamp). There is a pick of one of the 2 NOS GM coils I have to show what  the manufacturer stamped on the coil end frame - they were dated as well. I think the repops have caught up with that.

The best way to tell if the gearcase has been rebuilt is to look at the "rivets" holding the case halves together - they have 4 tabs bent back to lock the halves together, very difficult to close them up and separate the case without damaging the tabs. If the field coils and armature of the motor are reused, the only other things to consider are the brushes as a wear part. You gotta consider these are tough little motors, and even in rainy climates were not used every time the car was driven - most used motors still have a good service life left.

As I said before, I think your unit looks good, just a couple of cosmetic changes and I think you'll be all set. Hope I haven't caused you any duress - I apologize if that's the case.

Regards,
Steve
Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: Red955i on October 19, 2021, 03:28:21 AM
Thanks so much.  I learn more every day. I've had my PaceCar since '75 Bought it with 20,000 miles. Drove it in summer until I got married in '85 and put in garage. It just came out of a 36 year nap !! Registration sticker on windshield is 1986. I spoke to Steve. Very honest and knowledgable guy. Has been redoing these for decades. There was obviously no way to replate mine without destroying the coils so it was either original or repro...and I've been avoiding repro.  He told me before doing mine how hard parts were to get and was shocked that mine actually worked when he got it. Thanks again!! Bob
Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: z28z11 on October 19, 2021, 04:11:34 AM
No problem whatsoever. Smart to buy your Pacer when you did - I looked for a good while to find the one I wanted (I've owned my '69 Z since '73, always wanted a Pace Car to go with it. Looked at what seemed like 100 cars until I found this one, a Southwest Zone car sold through a Houston dealership, Southwest car all it's life until I bought it). Some of the ones I looked at were Flintstonemobiles, with trees growing up through the floorboards. No lie -

Good/bad part about the Z - open headlight car, not an RS. Pros and cons both ways -

Regards,
Steve
Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: Red955i on October 19, 2021, 05:42:30 PM
I paid $2000 for my car. At the time, everyone thought I was nuts :-)
Title: Re: wiper motor restoration
Post by: z28z11 on October 19, 2021, 07:21:24 PM
Good price -  verts held up better than coupes. My high school friend I bought my Z from was getting married, wanted $1800, I ended up buying for $1600. Had to sell my BelAir, but it was worth it.

Steve