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Title: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: SMKZ28 on December 22, 2019, 02:49:27 PM
A red or orange 1969 Camaro RS/SS convertible was used as the pace car for the 1968 Klondike Trail 200 Can-Am event held at Edmonton Speedway Park in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on Sunday, September 29, 1968.  This was the third event of the 1968 Canadian-American Challenge Cup sanctioned by the Sports Car Club of America (SCCA).  Denny Hulme won the event in his Chevy powered McLaren M8A.

According to all the information I have gathered this is the first appearance of a 1969 model year Camaro being used as a pace car for a major automobile race.  I believe that the 1969 model year officially began on September 26, 1968 and this event took place three days later.  The race fans who attended this event were probably some of the first to see the newly restyled Camaro in person.

Not only was it the pace car but several other multi-colored 1969 Camaro convertibles were used to parade the drivers around the track prior to the start of race activities. 

These pictures are part of the Dave Friedman Collection but they are no longer available on the internet.  I downloaded them several years ago.
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: SMKZ28 on December 22, 2019, 02:52:45 PM
Here is a color picture taken during the event showing that the Camaro was red or possibly Hugger Orange.  It came from the Canadian Motor Sport History Group Yahoo page.  The picture is part of the North Alberta Sports Car Club Archives and it was posted by some with the name of "mgbadams" back in 2012.

If you look closely, the center caps have been removed from the wheels.  Due to the lack of people in the grand stands this picture was probably taken during practice on Friday or Saturday.
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: SMKZ28 on December 22, 2019, 02:55:51 PM
These post race photos also came from the Dave Friedman Collection.  The first one shows the Camaro next to the winning McLaren Chevy and the others show the winner Denny Hulme riding in the back of the Camaro driven by Stirling Moss.
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: SMKZ28 on December 22, 2019, 02:59:29 PM
Here are the front cover of the event program and a poster for the event.  They came from worthpoint.com
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: group/7 on July 05, 2022, 02:42:15 AM
Stirling Moss with lady friend talks to Bruce McLaren,  I believe this is '68 Edmonton Can-Am, Maybe '69 ?

Scott ? ? ?

Interesting that this SS convertible looks to have California tags ?
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: 169INDY on July 05, 2022, 05:38:19 AM
I know this is NOT the thread for it, but Man Look at the contrast between the black Cali Plate color and the tail pan, My oh My,,,,,,,,,,,,,
T.Y. for posting
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: william on July 05, 2022, 01:53:04 PM
Stirling Moss with lady friend talks to Bruce McLaren,  I believe this is '68 Edmonton Can-Am, Maybe '69 ?

Scott ? ? ?

Interesting that this SS convertible looks to have California tags ?

Has to be 1969. 2nd design rear spoiler.
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: SMKZ28 on July 06, 2022, 12:28:08 PM
I believe that picture of Stirling Moss talking to Bruce McLaren is from the 1969 Can Am event at Edmonton.  See my thread on that race here: http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=19806.0
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: group/7 on July 06, 2022, 02:03:11 PM
Thanks Scott, missed that you had already posted that image of Moss in '69 at Edmonton in another thread  ::)

And thanks william for your input re: the rear 2nd. design rear spoiler on the car.

Confirms that it is indeed '69.

Mike
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: SMKZ28 on January 19, 2023, 04:09:55 AM
Just located this great color photo of race winner Denny Hulme being chauffeured around the track by Sterling Moss who is driving the 1969 Camaro RS/SS convertible that was used as the pace car for this event.  Notice the removed wheel center caps.

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Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: SMKZ28 on January 19, 2023, 04:25:55 AM
I also found this great color photo of one of the driver parade 1969 Camaro convertibles.  This one carried Bruce McLaren and Denny Hulme around the track prior to the start of the event.  They locked out the front row in qualifying.

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Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: MO on January 19, 2023, 06:30:34 AM
Scott, curious if they are different cars? The wheels look different to me. Or is it just an illusion?
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: MO on January 19, 2023, 06:37:06 AM
Thanks Scott, missed that you had already posted that image of Moss in '69 at Edmonton in another thread  ::)

And thanks william for your input re: the rear 2nd. design rear spoiler on the car.

Confirms that it is indeed '69.

Mike

Sorry to chime in so late on this, but that is a late CA plate number as well.
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: SMKZ28 on January 19, 2023, 02:43:45 PM
Scott, curious if they are different cars? The wheels look different to me. Or is it just an illusion?

Yes, the two pictures I recently posted are of different cars.  The first one in Reply #9 with Denny Hulme in the back with the winners wreath around his neck and Sterling Moss driving is the Camaro they used as the pace car.  This was taken after the race was completed.  Compare this picture with the black and white shots of the pace lap earlier in the thread and you can see that it has the Rally Wheels with the missing center caps.  Or maybe the car didn't even have Rally Wheels.  It might have had the optional base hubcap with the P06 trim ring option and they took off the hubcaps (see picture from CRG).  I'm just not sure.  It also looks like it has white raised letter tires.  The Camaro in Reply #10 was not the pace car.  It was one of the Camaros that was used to chauffeur the drivers around the track in order to wave to the fans prior to the race.  You are right about the different wheels.  This Camaro is wearing the optional N-96 Mag Style wheel covers in conjunction with what looks to be white side wall tires.  This was taken prior to the race.

With the quality of the color in the images I'm not sure if they are even the same color.  The Camaro in Reply #9 might be Hugger Orange while the Camaro in Reply #10 might be Garnet Red.
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: MO on January 20, 2023, 06:47:38 AM
Thanks for the clarification. I thought the colors might be different as well, but reasoned that time of day, sunlight, etc., might have been the reason they looked different. Again, great info and documentation!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: Jon Mello on February 19, 2023, 08:37:44 PM
Interesting that this SS convertible looks to have California tags ?

Definitely CA license plates.  The plate frame looks like it is from Parker-Robb Chevrolet in Walnut Creek which is in the general SF/Bay Area.
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: group/7 on March 12, 2023, 05:14:29 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: SMKZ28 on March 15, 2023, 10:37:56 PM
;)

Fantastic color photo of the pace lap!  Thanks for posting it Mike.
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: KurtS on March 19, 2023, 07:21:11 PM
What am I seeing? Almost looks like they have a sign or the trunklid is held open - that would be a lot of wind resistance!
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: MO on March 20, 2023, 05:28:06 AM
Good catch Kurt. Definitely looks like the trunklid is open. I'd bet that was unintentional.
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: SMKZ28 on March 20, 2023, 01:43:31 PM
Interesting, it does look like the trunk lid is open.  You can see the attached spoiler.  Didn’t notice that when Mike first posted the image because I’ve only been able to log on from my phone for the past week or so.  Must have popped open at some point during pace lap because it looks to be closed in a picture of the pace lap in the first post on the first page of this thread.  I wonder if someone in the back seat was able to close it or did they go around the track like that??
Title: Re: Edmonton Speedway Park: 1969 Camaro RS/SS Conv. Pace Car for Can Am Sept. 1968
Post by: KurtS on March 20, 2023, 10:24:34 PM
I would think that the wind would push the decklid closed, not open.....