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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: Inigo on May 08, 2019, 12:15:19 AM
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Hi everyone
I am new in the forum and just bought a 1967 camaro in Peru which as per the codes is a camaro ss/rs.
It is lacking most of emblems and clearly it has been dissembled and assembled back.
The engine number in the papers is V0516M57N224653 which Rich Fields helped me understand it’s a a 350 ci manual transmission for Super Sport, built in Flint MI on May 16
I still have the doubt if the engine is the original or if it was changed. How can I know that?
The casting number is 3892657 which understand could be either a 327 or 350, so still not sure if the engine is 327 or 350.
Attaching some pictures. Any help will be very much appreciated
Best regards
Inigo
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Hi everyone
I am new in the forum and just bought a 1967 camaro in Peru which as per the codes is a camaro ss/rs.
It is lacking most of emblems and clearly it has been dissembled and assembled back.
The engine number in the papers is V0516M57N224653 which Rich Fields helped me understand it’s a a 350 ci manual transmission for Super Sport, built in Flint MI on May 16
I still have the doubt if the engine is the original or if it was changed. How can I know that?
The casting number is 3892657 which understand could be either a 327 or 350, so still not sure if the engine is 327 or 350.
Attaching some pictures. Any help will be very much appreciated
Best regards
Inigo
Welcome to the CRG -
Mr. Fields is correct in his decoding - your engine code sequence listed above is probably an "MS" suffix, not "M5", which would be the correct code for a 350/295hp SS block, manual transmission without smog equipment, which is also correct for a Norwood built '67 SS (California mandated AIR equipment in '67 for manual cars, not so in Norwood until '68). If your stamped VIN 1N224653 on the block matches your car's VIN tag, you should have a winner, barring a restamp. If the block has been decked, it could still be the original if the date code precedes the build date of the car (check out the pad in the front of the passenger side head). Post up a few pics and we'll be glad to try to help you sort it out. Don't get put off if you have problems posting them, just keep your pic size within the file size limits and number of pics per post, and you'll get there.
The 657 block was also used for the Z28's 302, by the way. You can find this in the Engine section, decoding engine codes in the CRG research areas in the Home page. Tons of correct info on here for your research on your ride. don't hesitate to ask for help from the '67 owners here - that's why we post !
Regards,
Steve
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If you want pics posted, email them to me.
And your engine information would be V0516MS 7N224653
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Thanks both
Yes, realized the engine number should be with a S i/o a 5, apparently it is a mistake in the Peruvian documents as there is where the mistake is.
In the engine I couldn’t find other number rather than the casting number (which applies to 327 and 350 and even Z28’s 302.
I am traveling so don’t have access to the car now but will try to get more pictures.
Thanks, will send you the pictures to your email as I couldn’t upload them here when I tried (several times)
Thanks again for your help
Cheers
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Indigo,
The balance of the engine number you gave is the partial vin for the car the engine came out of. If your vin ends in N224653, then this is the original engine for your car.....unless it was red-stamped
Paul
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Thanks Paul
The issue is that the Number is in the papers
In the engine only the casting number is legible
And i am not an expert in GM engines so don’t know how to identify if it is the original engine or at least if it is a 350 or 327...
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Pics...
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More
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More. None received of engine stamping, trans stamping or axle stamping.
I did ask for an engine pad pic.
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If you want pics posted, email them to me at bcm66@cox.net
And your engine information would be V0516MS 7N224653
Thanks, Byron. Here I complained of a typo in the sngine suffix, then created one for the VIN. I should remember to proofread before I hit "post".
Regards,
Steve
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Cool original Black car. Always nice to see other black car owners beside myself.
Scot
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Looks like it has later cylinder head with threaded bolt provision on end of head pictured
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Stock engine/configuration is confirmed!
7N224653
V05I6MS
Compression is 160 in all cylinders, so guess better not touch it. What do you think?
I was considering to install a more modern GM engine and 6 speed manual transmission. But seeing it keeps its original engine, believe I am obliged to keep it original...
Looking forward to your comments/ideas
Cheers
PS sorry but couldn’t make the photo lighter
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The engine block is original! I have seen pics. If the owner wants me to post them, I will.
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Tks Bryon
Happy if you post the pictures
Cheers
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Pad pic.