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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Decoding/Numbers => Topic started by: Ozbax on May 05, 2019, 03:23:54 AM

Title: VIN versus Cowl Tag
Post by: Ozbax on May 05, 2019, 03:23:54 AM
Hi all,
I was considering looking at a 67 RS/SS and  requested the tag details from the owner before I committed to travel to view the car in person. From the pics I received the VIN is 124377N212188 and the cowl tag says 11E build date. This does not appear right to me - seeking some expert opinion on this. Car has obviously been restored at some point and appears to have a non-original drive train. 10 bolt diff and a very odd looking engine stamp -misaligned characters in the engine code and suffix is MT (cowl tag says powerglide), and from the photo partial VIN is not visible.
So my questions are;
Is it possible that the tags are correct together (as in time-frame)?
Should engine codes always be aligned ie gang stamped? (although in this case I think the suffix is wrong for this car anyway).

Thanks in advance,
Brian.
Title: Re: VIN versus Cowl Tag
Post by: bcmiller on May 05, 2019, 03:34:49 AM
That VIN is for an early May built car.

At least one of the tags is not original to that car.
Title: Re: VIN versus Cowl Tag
Post by: Ozbax on May 05, 2019, 03:40:06 AM
Thanks, yes that is what I thought too.
Title: Re: VIN versus Cowl Tag
Post by: Mike S on May 05, 2019, 01:13:42 PM
 That VIN is close to my '67 and the trim tag is 05B. See if the seller can send a picture of the 'hidden VIN' stamped at the top of the cowl. It may be under the wiper cowl panel though but that should help with identifying which tag was switched.
Title: Re: VIN versus Cowl Tag
Post by: Petes L48 on May 05, 2019, 02:46:37 PM
The MT engine application code would indicate a manual and AIR/smog car, of which all were assembled at the LOS or Van Nuys plant in 67.  My hunch is a trim tag swap to make the car more that it was originally.   
Title: Re: VIN versus Cowl Tag
Post by: 67conv6cyl on May 05, 2019, 05:27:55 PM
There are old posts of this car if you google vin...white car, parchment interior, black roof,
That was in 2001.
Title: Re: VIN versus Cowl Tag
Post by: Ozbax on May 05, 2019, 09:21:13 PM
Those old posts certainly make interesting reading. So looks like someone has had a go at re-stamping the decked (327) block, or has had another engine swap along the way.
Title: Re: VIN versus Cowl Tag
Post by: Ozbax on May 06, 2019, 09:33:23 AM
And yes, it was advertised as a genuine matching numbers RS/SS.