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Model Specific Discussions => Trans-Am Camaros => Topic started by: 369 on February 27, 2019, 05:06:08 AM

Title: Lucas Mechanical Fuel Injection
Post by: 369 on February 27, 2019, 05:06:08 AM
Long shot but does anyone on here have any experience with the Lucas timed metering.........as run on Can-Am cars of the day.

I recently purchased a setup and have some general questions
Title: Re: Lucas Mechanical Fuel Injection
Post by: crossboss on February 27, 2019, 02:42:44 PM
I do not have any experience with them, however, are they the same as the Hilborn or Algon injection systems used on the Can-Am engines?
Title: Re: Lucas Mechanical Fuel Injection
Post by: crossboss on February 27, 2019, 03:02:39 PM
For reference, here is the 'side draft' Algon injection used on a Tunnel Port 427 Ford Can-Am engine.
Click on pic to enlarge.

Title: Re: Lucas Mechanical Fuel Injection
Post by: crossboss on February 27, 2019, 03:42:04 PM
Not sure if this is the Lucas injection your taking about as seen on a BB Chevy McLaren Can Am car.
Click on pic to enlarge.

Title: Re: Lucas Mechanical Fuel Injection
Post by: 369 on February 28, 2019, 06:26:21 AM
Yes, the second pic is exactly it......I'm not familiar with the Algon but the Hillborn is slightly different as it is a constant flow system...the Lucas actually pulses the injectors like a modern day electronic fuel injection except all done mechanically.
Title: Re: Lucas Mechanical Fuel Injection
Post by: crossboss on February 28, 2019, 04:45:54 PM
Yes, the second pic is exactly it......I'm not familiar with the Algon but the Hillborn is slightly different as it is a constant flow system...the Lucas actually pulses the injectors like a modern day electronic fuel injection except all done mechanically.



I assume then the Lucas version should 'in theory' be the better tunable set up? That said, why not go with a conversion to electronic fuel injection using your set up, all the while it will 'look' vintage, yet be easier and more reliable. Just a consideration to think about...
Title: Re: Lucas Mechanical Fuel Injection
Post by: crossboss on February 28, 2019, 08:56:18 PM
Here is an example of what I was referring to. Its an EFI Hilborn injected Big Block, yet it looks vintage. Best of both worlds.
Click on pic to enlarge.

Title: Re: Lucas Mechanical Fuel Injection
Post by: camaroboy68ss on February 28, 2019, 11:35:01 PM
i think Hillborn now has a setup with the fuel rails running down the middle so you dont see them for a more vintage look.
Title: Re: Lucas Mechanical Fuel Injection
Post by: crossboss on March 01, 2019, 12:02:09 AM
i think Hillborn now has a setup with the fuel rails running down the middle so you dont see them for a more vintage look.



Yes, that is correct. Here is an example:
Click on pic to enlarge.

Title: Re: Lucas Mechanical Fuel Injection
Post by: 369 on March 05, 2019, 09:47:33 PM
Wow that’s pretty cool lookin!!!! Good to know for sure...those things look awesome,Id love to see one in a street car

Well I was planning on using this setup on an endurance boat so just sticking to the basics for the durability aspect....anyway they seem to have been the hot setup for Can-Am cars....I’m close to trying to just see what I can do just playing with it but my gut is telling me it’s outta my league lol.....just curious if anyone had messed with or ran one on here.

I’m about to send it to Kinsler but that ain’t cheap....pbly the smart move tho.
Title: Re: Lucas Mechanical Fuel Injection
Post by: crossboss on March 06, 2019, 01:23:42 AM
Try Inglese, or Hilborn. Either way, its not gonna be cheap. Keep us informed, and post some pictures of your set up when your done!
Here is a link to Inglese:

http://ingleseinductionsystems.com
Title: Re: Lucas Mechanical Fuel Injection
Post by: firstgenaddict on May 18, 2019, 02:50:08 PM
Where are you?
I have someone who knows the systems EXTREMELY well... We are in the Upstate SC Western North Carolina area- QUAIN STOTT - former promodified world champion who owns and runs the Southeastern Gasser drag race Series.
There are A LOT of mechanical fuel injection systems run in his series.

The costs of these are multiple thousands of dollars... and I know they get a 100# weight break VS carbs.