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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: 67jeffreyt on February 15, 2019, 02:17:20 PM

Title: 1967 Camaro built in 66 titled 1966
Post by: 67jeffreyt on February 15, 2019, 02:17:20 PM
This is way before my time, I'm not sure what the owner is trying to prove to me but he states back when you titled a car it was title the year not the year of the car, so he has a 1966 title for a 67 Camaro. I think he thinks this is a rarity, im not following what he's stating. I need an older person insight that was buying cars in the 60s to explain maybe
Title: Re: 1967 Camaro built in 66 titled 1966
Post by: 67jeffreyt on February 15, 2019, 02:19:51 PM
If I'm not mistaken it's still just a 67 Camaro, but maybe the title being original and dated 66 is rare?
Title: Re: 1967 Camaro built in 66 titled 1966
Post by: 69Z28-RS on February 15, 2019, 02:24:24 PM
Local and state authorities titling/registering vehicles make all sorts of mistakes!  So there's no telling what the TITLE says, but if he has a GM Manufacturer's Statement of Origin (MSO or MCO) which describes the car as a 1966 Camaro, THAT would be a bit unusual...  :)   (That document is where states are supposed to get the automobile information for new cars)

https://www.aamva.org/Manufacturers-Certificate-of-Origin/

https://govbanknotes.wordpress.com/2015/02/23/michigan-secretary-of-state-refuses-to-return-manufacturers-certificate-of-origin/

Title: Re: 1967 Camaro built in 66 titled 1966
Post by: Kelley W King on February 15, 2019, 05:24:54 PM
I have a friend who says he has a Mustang titled 1964 model. He never has produced the title.
Title: Re: 1967 Camaro built in 66 titled 1966
Post by: bcmiller on February 15, 2019, 09:37:22 PM
Title may have a 1966 date but unless somebody REALLY messed up, the year of the car will say 1967.

Without seeing the title, the discussion is pointless.
Title: Re: 1967 Camaro built in 66 titled 1966
Post by: KurtS on February 15, 2019, 11:47:58 PM
Titles can say whatever. Clerks enter the data. People have had them add SS and such to titles. The VIN will say 67.....

Title: Re: 1967 Camaro built in 66 titled 1966
Post by: MO on February 16, 2019, 03:55:47 AM
Simply a clerical error.
Title: Re: 1967 Camaro built in 66 titled 1966
Post by: z28z11 on February 16, 2019, 05:26:36 AM
Simply put, look at the VIN and trim tag. Both reference the year of the car, regardless of the state title (which is generated when the car is registered in the state the car is sold in). Much ado about a clerical/typographical error.

When the car is retitled, the owner should correctly identify the year of the car, not further the misrepresentation. Wonder what the insurance company would think about it ?   

JMO -

Regards,
Steve
Title: Re: 1967 Camaro built in 66 titled 1966
Post by: 67jeffreyt on February 16, 2019, 04:11:06 PM
I agree on error, car is 67 period, no matter the title, I'm not arguing with the guy, I had just never heard of what he's trying to make out from back in 1966
Title: Re: 1967 Camaro built in 66 titled 1966
Post by: 68 Ragtop on February 16, 2019, 04:39:48 PM
He may be confusing the title issue date with the model year date.
Plenty of 1966 titles issued for 1967 models sold from September-December
Title: Re: 1967 Camaro built in 66 titled 1966
Post by: 67jeffreyt on February 18, 2019, 03:27:48 AM
I'd agree, but he seems to think that makes it rare. I'd just never heard of the title method being discussed, I got my first car in mid 80s.
Title: Re: 1967 Camaro built in 66 titled 1966
Post by: BULLITT65 on February 18, 2019, 03:47:27 AM
I have heard of this happening with different cars here in California. When you go to the DMV on an older car you have to tell them the year and what you want on the title. If you don't, they just look at some of the paperwork, and do there best with the very little training they have. Even the CHP (hi-way patrol) needed help identifying a motorcycle for me. Both the CHP and DMV is kind of a Russian roulette for if you are going to get someone easy to deal with, but I have not seen an employee of either that was familiar with older vehicles.