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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: ZLP955 on January 22, 2019, 03:48:21 AM
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Well after years of searching, I have finally been able to track down some photos of my Z when it was a race car. I am delighted, to say the least.
It also allowed me to learn more about the car's race history; it was bought new in late June 1969 and began to run at Lions Dragstrip. By early January 1971, when the photos below were shot by photographers for Hot Rod magazine, the car was still the original silver with black stripes, but had some dark (probably black) infills added down both sides, plus race decals and lettering, in addition to the Cragar S/S wheels. The flat hood appears to have had the hinges removed, as it sits high at the cowl, and there is an interesting curved tube in front of the driver, probably a tach or a fuel pressure gauge.
Note the original California black front plate (the username I chose when I signed up here years ago - as I got both original plates with the car), the Clippinger Covina plate frame (which backs up the NCRS Shipper info) and the VE3 front bumper still on it today.
These photos are from the 1971 AHRA Grand American series at Long Beach (Lions) CA and the car ran in the Formula Stock class.
Some time after January, but still during 1971, the car had a full repaint by renowned pinstriper Bob Kovacs in Fresno, and ended up switching to E/MP class, presumably under IHRA or NHRA rules. I'm not sure at what point the hood was cut out, or when it was mini-tubbed for wider rear rubber, but that is how I bought it. The car's name also changed from 'Fiasco' in 1971 to 'Home-Grown Fiasco' when it was repainted. The home-grown part could be a reference to the owner's father and son auto parts business in LA at the time.
The copyright and ownership of the photos below must be credited to TEN (The Enthusiast Network) and the Petersen Publishing/SEMA Digitization Project. I have made contact with them to seek access to the hi-res and non-watermarked versions of these, but have not yet heard back. In the meantime, I hope it is OK to post the publicly-available Lo-res versions, along with an acknowledgement of copyright.
Just wanted to share my delight at finding these pictures with the many friends I have made on this forum!
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Well, I've wondered what the ZLP was all about... :) and it's so very neat to have those early photos of your car~ :)
Good luck getting the high res originals... :)
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awesome...I like the pictures...Could you add a picture what your car looks like now(full size)
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Nice pics. That elbow in the hood is something new to me. Good to have pics of your car from back in the day. Your born with engine make it through that?
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That is great Tim. The tube out the hood is weird
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Awesome pics Tim! (those are priceless)
Love the license frames. Confirms the orientation of having to mount them with the bottom Covina screw holes.
Will finding these vintage pics change how you restore the car paint wise, or adding stickers?
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Congrats Tim! Awesome photos.
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Thanks for all your comments! I've been searching for such a long time, that I actually thought I was imagining things when I stumbled on these pictures a couple of nights ago - plus it was about 1:00am.....
Got to say, if the original owner hadn't left the front plate on there, I may not have recognised the car.
To address some of your comments:
Gary - the hi-res photos can be purchased from the copyright owner so stay tuned!
PureSS - car is mostly apart at the moment, so no current pictures. My avatar picture is the only shot of it in the full race paint, but I've added some pictures from when the car was found and bought from the late Merle Duprey 20 years ago. At the time, the car had sat in Merle's desert yard since 1974 when it was retired from racing. Looked pretty sorry and a lot of the race 'goodies' had been picked over, but the car actually came with a lot of original stuff - including the original seat belts and sun visors, 12-bolt rear, etc.
Kelley and Bill - the car had a 1969-dated CE 302 in it when I got it, was told the original block was scattered on a track (and can believe it!) but if it was replaced under warranty, it must've been early on, before the car looked like it did above! That curved tube is certainly different, never seen any period race car with one of those before. And the hood isn't cut locally in that spot, I think there were a couple of small holes though, probably for screws and a cable/tube.
Austin - yes, nice to see the plate frame on there! My current plans were based on not having any photographic evidence of how the car looked or was set up.... although now I do. Going to keep moving, while considering options.....
Here are the as-found pictures from 1999. Unfortunately someone started to strip the race paint and took the quarters back to bare metal while it sat, but that is only surface rust and the car was solid.
(http://www.carsinbarns.com/Bowties%20In%20Barns/Home_Grown_3.JPG)
(http://www.carsinbarns.com/Bowties%20In%20Barns/Home_Grown_1.jpg)
(http://www.carsinbarns.com/Bowties%20In%20Barns/Home_Grown_2.jpg)
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PS: There is another thread going on about VE3 bumpers, note the fit of this one in those 1971 pictures!
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Thats awesome. Congrats! Please share where or how you found the pics...... I'm still looking and hoping.
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Thanks for the reply back..awesome you found the pictures..you probably did not sleep for the rest of the night
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Congrats Tim! Very cool keep us updated.
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Nice to see some pics of that car, Tim! The vintage shots are awesome! Congrats.
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That's a very neat history. And...as others have mentioned, I now know what your screen name means.
Mike
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I like the early race trim... rear of the hood elevated with the VE3 and style trim...
AWESOME! WOW, SO FREAKING KILLER TO HAVE THOSE PHOTOS!!!! Congrats!
I have searched for photos on the internet and have found some really killer early corvette race photos from the 50's and early 60's along with some other neat pics... but to find ones of your own car, incredible... you must have thought it was a mirage...lol
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James said it pretty good as did many others as in "how cool is this" to have pictures of your Camaro from back in the day when it was racing. How did you end up locating Tim? But no matter way to go and congratulations. I just had a friend telling me last week about a drag car back in the day when it was hitting the upper end (mph) the back of the hood would come up so air could pass thru to assist top end instead of the engine compartment acting as a wind stop. Again, congrats Tim!
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Tim you are also lucky you got the license plates with it, since I don't see them on the car, in the "found in condition". Many guys hold onto the plates now, and do not include them in the sale of a car here in California.
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Thanks to everyone for your positive comments!
As to how I found those pictures, I must offer sincere thanks to CRG member SMKZ28; I was about to turn in, when I had a quick read of his latest posts on the Trans-Am Camaro sub-forum, and noted his link to the Petersen/SEMA archive project here: https://archive.petersen.org/pages/home.php
So I headed over there and started searching, and after going through hundreds of pages trying various search keywords - BINGO!
I did end up sleeping (eventually) after finding those pictures in the early hours, I was tempted to wake my wife up to tell her the news, but although she's very supportive of my hobby, decided that might not be such a good idea...... reckon I slept with a smile though, because I couldn't get the grin off my face all the next day.
That archive site has heaps of excellent period photos, I have only just scratched the surface and the hunt for more continues - but it's captured and preserved a snapshot of such a wonderful period in car culture and history.
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OK, so time for a question: anyone care to speculate what size wheels and tires the car is running in those pictures? To me, the rear wheel opening lips look stock, so I think the mini-tubbing and lip flaring took place later when the repaint occurred.... thoughts?
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Very nice, and the old school paint job to top it off. Not many drag cars with proven history left. Some would like to see it in its original paint scheme with drag history. I hand lettered and pinstriped this documented car which gained far more attention than if it was just a normally restored car. Two years on display in New York. Never would have hit the magazine if just another restored car. https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1969-amc-hurst-rambler-scrambler-terrorized-northeast-dragstrips-1970s/?fbclid=IwAR1EALnonoi3BR4LT3m28L_MdiuYYFFif3a4XgJUR77HzSY3VCFU0ie09aE
Your car in the Home Grown scheme would be great.
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Scott, I've long admired your work but that is outstanding and inspiring! I know what you mean about restoring the car to dead stock; although I've not seen many silver over blue Camaros, I think if one can be sure about the details, then a recreation of a race car can be far more interesting than another restored cookie-cutter car.
I need to give this fork in the road careful consideration now, in light of these pictures.
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Bring the old war horse back to life.
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OK, so time for a question: anyone care to speculate what size wheels and tires the car is running in those pictures? To me, the rear wheel opening lips look stock, so I think the mini-tubbing and lip flaring took place later when the repaint occurred.... thoughts?
It appears the front wheels are 'narrow'; I'm guessing 4-5" wheel width, but no more than 6". The rear wheels are likely 8" (best guess) but possibly wider...
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Congrats, Tim. Very cool to find those photos. The tube out of the hood like that is for housing the tach. Probably a Jones cable driven model. I have seen that same "tube" on vintage drag boats for the same purpose and I believe that is what they were designed for. You can buy a new one here if you scroll down toward the bottom of the page... http://dragboatcity.com/new-parts/
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I vote vintage racer with the "Fiasco" paint job like in the newly found pics. The flat hood with that tach mount would be one of kind!
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Very interesting Jon, good eye on the tach mount! I just went and had a look at the original hood, and there are just 2 small holes where that was mounted, so I imagine one hole for the drive cable and one to bolt the tube.....
Gary - thanks for the thoughts on wheel width. I thought the front runners looked a little wider than 4" myself, so maybe 5"? Will have to search period Cragar catalogs to see what sizes were available then.
Austin, Jano - thanks for the comments. Hmmm this really has given me much to consider! I embraced the dead stock restoration plan because that gave me certainty over how to do the car, but..... can't ignore it's history now.
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I figured it was for a tach...
I love it... SILVER /BLUE - BLACK / BLUE - are my favorite color combos...
I would have to go back to the 71 period paint... so unique and very clean looking.
The pinstripes on the front fenders around the z28 emblems... the lettered 301.56 CUI man that is just too cool...
ARE ANY OF THE ORIGINAL GRAPHICS UNDER THE CURRENT PAINT - wondering about the colors?
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All opinion,,I really like the "cleanliness" of the Hot Rod pics. Looked great on the TA Z's. Foose brought it back some time ago. The look, a few years ago in the Good Guys mag.
Im thinking 28x10 on 15s in the rear, thought there was a width limit. Fronts ran tall to increase rollout profile.
Easy to bench race "this is what I would do", but I'm really into period/60's era drag cars, that were campaigned. Mine was more an event, trophy class beast. No history. IF all the important born with stuff was gone,,it would be a 68 Winternational Stocker look alike. Pullin' gears way more fun then watching folks walk by, lol. IMO.
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Awesome story, with an excellent ending…you found pictures of your car's racing past. As some posters mentioned, I would restore it to its former racing glory, including the name, graphics, and paint.
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I would bet they are 15x4 on the front and 15x7 on the rear in the '71 pics.
I also am in the camp that votes to return it to it's racing livery, etc. I much prefer the '71 paint scheme over the later one but it's all personal preference and you are the owner. I don't think there is a wrong answer, except for an LS engine transplant.
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,,,,and A/C.....
I think that would be a good bet on the wheels.
Looked like all the stockers were running the same size front runners. For a reason. Decreased rolling resistance, every thousandths of a sec shaved helps. And a taller tire to
help leave a little higher on the amber. So,,,gonna be what you can fit under there without rubbing.
Wow, discovering those pics really warmed this story up a bit👨🚒
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ARE ANY OF THE ORIGINAL GRAPHICS UNDER THE CURRENT PAINT - wondering about the colors?
James all the exterior is still in as-found paint (the 1999 photos) because I've been focussing on rectifying the mini-tubbing and flaring. So all panels except the quarters have the second paint job as per my avatar. It is very checked and faded, and in places where it is flaking, I can clearly see the Cortez Silver underneath and it looks in good shape; so I'm now wondering about methods to carefully take back the repaint, in particular on the side panels, to try and reveal what is shown in the photos at the start of this thread.
Any suggestions?
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I would bet they are 15x4 on the front and 15x7 on the rear in the '71 pics.
I also am in the camp that votes to return it to it's racing livery, etc. I much prefer the '71 paint scheme over the later one but it's all personal preference and you are the owner. I don't think there is a wrong answer, except for an LS engine transplant.
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When I bought Fiasco, it had quite a few custom-fabricated parts on it, including square traction bars, a driveshaft loop, subframe connectors, offset adjustable spring shackles, and the tow tabs visible in the 1971 photos. The VE3 bumper was notched a little to fit the tow tabs, and I may just leave that detail now rather than repairing it. Story I got upon purchase was the original owner lived in Hollywood and used to flat-tow the car down to Lions, after it got too serious to be street-friendly.
It also still had an electric fuel pump and filter mounted inside the trunk, and the front disc brake system had been swapped out for a non-power drum system with a Hurst line-lock. Fortunately I've kept everything, with the exception of the narrowed fuel tank (stupidly I sold it about 5 years back, never thought I'd reuse that).
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Tim,
If you are between Sydney and Canberra, I'll stop by to see the car and crack open a few beers if I get there before I decide to retire from work.
Mike
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Mike, I am in central NSW. Actually bought the car from a Canberra suburb! If you're ever over here, beers and BBQ on me!
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I would bet they are 15x4 on the front and 15x7 on the rear in the '71 pics.
I also am in the camp that votes to return it to it's racing livery, etc. I much prefer the '71 paint scheme over the later one but it's all personal preference and you are the owner. I don't think there is a wrong answer, except for an LS engine transplant.
Agree with several on taking it back to when it was raced early on! And what is neat about that it can be a street legal car as well. Love the race history.
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Tim, I am rethinking whether it had a cable driven tach or not. The chances are much more likely it had an electrically powered tach instead.
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Incredible finds. And those pictures are KILLER. Congrats.
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Hey Tim, great picture find! I like the "CAMARO" lettering on the front spoiler. To solve your dilemma over restoring it to original or in its race colors, how about you paint it all original. Then get the vehicle vinyl wrap for the sides of car showing the way it was raced. Then you can always remove the vinyl and you are stock again. Just a thought.
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Great idea Warren! I definitely lean more towards the silver with 'additions' than the full warpaint.
Jon, no worries about the tach, just wondering what gave you cause to rethink? The dash has a custom plate over where the factory tach and heater controls were, with SW gauges (from memory, oil pressure and temperature), so an additional tach would have been required, just a question of mechanical or electrical.
And thanks again to all who have commented so far, I am really happy about this development of my custodianship of Fiasco!
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So the car had the console gauges and tach from the factory?
So the hood tach was used for line of sight I am guessing.
(I thought fuel pressure gauges were the only gauge that had to be mounted outside the passenger compartment)
Also, even though the car was sold through Clippinger Chevrolet, and they oddly ran the front plate and frame, I am guessing it was not tied into the dealership at all?
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I liked the wrap idea too. Doesnt look to hard to do either
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Austin, yes this was a dash tach, centre clock and console with gauges car. I dont think they stayed in place for long though. There's a couple of holes in the cowl panel vent ribs, right in front of the driver, so at some point there must've been another gauge fitted there, or the tube tach got moved.
As for any association with Clippinger aside from selling dealer, no idea but somehow I doubt it; no sign of any logos elsewhere on the car in either paint scheme. They probably left the plate frame visible as a gesture towards the dealership's reputation.
I have a copy of a race program from Saugus Speedway which describes the original driver (he moved on from drag racing to speedway) as holding an AHRA class record for 3 years, so would like to pursue that line of inquiry.
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So the car had the console gauges and tach from the factory?
So the hood tach was used for line of sight I am guessing.
(I thought fuel pressure gauges were the only gauge that had to be mounted outside the passenger compartment)
Also, even though the car was sold through Clippinger Chevrolet, and they oddly ran the front plate and frame, I am guessing it was not tied into the dealership at all?
The additional 'hood' tach was probably used so the driver *actually* knew what the engine was turning; the factory tach wasn't/isn't suitable for a racing application where one really needs to KNOW what the engine is turning RIGHT NOW (not a couple seconds ago)...
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Austin, yes this was a dash tach, centre clock and console with gauges car. I dont think they stayed in place for long though. There's a couple of holes in the cowl panel vent ribs, right in front of the driver, so at some point there must've been another gauge fitted there, or the tube tach got moved.
As for any association with Clippinger aside from selling dealer, no idea but somehow I doubt it; no sign of any logos elsewhere on the car in either paint scheme. They probably left the plate frame visible as a gesture towards the dealership's reputation.
I have a copy of a race program from Saugus Speedway which describes the original driver (he moved on from drag racing to speedway) as holding an AHRA class record for 3 years, so would like to pursue that line of inquiry.
FWIW, Saugus Speedway is no longer running any form of racing. They closed their 'official' racing events in 1995. It now currently has swap meets, small concerts, and cars shows. As for the AHRA class records, I believe that info might be still available?
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Yes IIRC the Saugus program was from around 1980, by which time the original owner was competing in the Sportsman class. There was a driver profile of him that brought up him switch from drag racing to speedway and mentioned him being a record holder. Funny thing, when I bought the car I was told by owner #3 that it had been a record-setter but I couldn't (and still can't!) find anything to prove that.
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Yes IIRC the Saugus program was from around 1980, by which time the original owner was competing in the Sportsman class. There was a driver profile of him that brought up him switch from drag racing to speedway and mentioned him being a record holder. Funny thing, when I bought the car I was told by owner #3 that it had been a record-setter but I couldn't (and still can't!) find anything to prove that.
IF you want, send me a PM of the owners name and I will ask my racing guru expert and long time friend Randy. Im pretty sure he will know…
Take care, Scott.
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After reviewing those photos, I'm of the opinion that the car hadn't had the mini-tubbing or quarter lip flaring done at that time. So I am going to progress the rectification of the inner wheelhouses and shock tower areas back to stock, and getting ready for paint in the original colours. I'm also really warming to Warren's suggestion of a vinyl wrap to the side panels, as that is reversible - thanks again for the idea!
I will start the hunt for some vintage Cragars in the likely sizes of 15x4 and 15x7.
The next question in my mind is on how to treat the interior. I'll post again after I check my notes on how the interior was when I bought the car.
One question to you about those 1971 photos at the start of this thread: does the steering wheel look like an N34? I got an original N34 wheel with dark blue hub and horn cap with the car but there was a smaller-diameter sports wheel in place, which could be a later swap-out. If the original steering wheel was left in place as-pictured, then it's more likely that the factory interior was more or less intact too.
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Jon, no worries about the tach, just wondering what gave you cause to rethink
My thought was that it was harder to route a tach cable to the driver's side of the car, especially with throttle linkage that could pose a problem and the need for the hood to be able to go up and down. A wire for an electrical tach would just be a lot easier to deal with.
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Good logic Jon, that makes a lot of sense. I've been wondering how they opened and secured the hood with it raised at the rear; still has the latching mechanism at the front.
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Probably made an aluminum spacer....
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We did it backin the day with spacers. Actually body shims. Did not take as many as you would think. Never saw the tube until now though.
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Interesting idea on the spacers... wondered if that was how they did it, there must be enough wiggle room to take up the change in hood angle at the header panel and latching mechanism.
Now.... hoping some eagle-eyed folk might be able to offer thoughts on the door decals.
In the second race scheme (as bought) each of the front doors had the following decals along the bottom edge, as first picture below~
Schiefer-Hurst-Lakewood-Fram-Valvoline. Then a Cragar decal (which fell off) on the bottom of the fender.
In the 1971 Lions photos, second pic below, I can make out the following~
Unknown-Valvoline-Holley-Hurst-Schiefer. The Cragar decal is under the Z/28 emblem at the front of the fender, and another decal I can't make out at the bottom edge of the fender. There is also an M&H decal just rear of the door by the quarter louver.
Does anyone recognise the unknown decal front edge of door bottom (reminds me of a Coca-Cola logo to me, with the twist underneath.....) or the unknown decal at the bottom of the fender?
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That one at the bottom of the fender looks like a VHT sticker. I'm certainly no expert but I've looked at a lot of sticker pictures lately....trying to decipher them on my car like you are on yours.
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Found this one, I think you're right!
So, just the one at the front of the door needs to be ID'd then.....
Do you have a thread going about your COPO?
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Just an FYI on propping up the rear of the hood if anyone hasn't mentioned it already. That was a popular trick dating back into the early 60's as far as I know. My father used to do it as well on one of his cars. It's a simple hood hinge adjustment. By tilting the hood hinges, it would hold the rear of the hood up a good 2-3 inches, and still latch in the front. The idea was to allow pressurized air to escape. Usually seen in a lot of vintage drag photos. I think Grumpy Jenkins was one that practiced it on a couple of his cars. Maybe the Z11 impala but can't remember.
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I was going to suggest the VHT logo, but looking closer at your picture the oval Looks similar, but I do not see the letters "VHT". I tried to look up the history of VHT to see if they were around our used this logo back then as well. Couldn't find a history that went back that far.
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To me there is no doubt the two stickers you are wondering about are VHT and Coca Cola.
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To me there is no doubt the two stickers you are wondering about are VHT and Coca Cola.
Thanks once again Jon. My first thought was that it was a Coke logo but I just couldn't see a racing connection with that brand. But the driver was only 21 at the time, so maybe that was his choice of trackside refreshment!
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By tilting the hood hinges, it would hold the rear of the hood up a good 2-3 inches, and still latch in the front. The idea was to allow pressurized air to escape. Usually seen in a lot of vintage drag photos.
Thanks, that confirms what Chick suggested previously, as the reason for the hood being raised at the rear.
Do you know if the hinge was adjusted at the hood bolts, or at the fender bolts, to create that gap? The hinges weren't installed in the car when I bought it.
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Tim, Coke was very much into racing sponsorship, etc back in that era. Google Coke ads from that era and you will see.
To me there is no doubt the two stickers you are wondering about are VHT and Coca Cola.
Thanks once again Jon. My first thought was that it was a Coke logo but I just couldn't see a racing connection with that brand. But the driver was only 21 at the time, so maybe that was his choice of trackside refreshment!
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By tilting the hood hinges, it would hold the rear of the hood up a good 2-3 inches, and still latch in the front. The idea was to allow pressurized air to escape. Usually seen in a lot of vintage drag photos.
Thanks, that confirms what Chick suggested previously, as the reason for the hood being raised at the rear.
Do you know if the hinge was adjusted at the hood bolts, or at the fender bolts, to create that gap? The hinges weren't installed in the car when I bought it.
The adjustment would be at the fender bolts. By adjusting the hinge, moving the rear of the hinge up all the way, and the front of the hinge down all the way, it will hold the back of the hood up high. You are essentially tilting the hinge forward as far as it will go.
This also moves the hood forward so after this adjustment you'll have to loosen the hinge-to-hood bolts and slide the hood back just a pinch.
Tilting the hinge the other way has the opposite affect and pulls the back of the hood down.
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Hey Jon Mello I thought it was Coke also...
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Thanks for the advice, on both the hood adjustments and the Coca-Cola decal. I had no idea they were associated with racing back then, but now that I think of it, many of our race teams down here in that era were sponsored by big tobacco and alcohol brands.... duh.
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So... just reviewing this whole thread, couple of unanswered questions back to the top.....
- anyone else think the steering wheel looks like an N34 simulated woodgrain wheel?
- any tips on carefully removing the second/current paint job from the doors and fenders to try and reveal the side panel color from the 1971 pictures?
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Found this one, I think you're right!
So, just the one at the front of the door needs to be ID'd then.....
Do you have a thread going about your COPO?
Not a dedicated thread on this site - I have one over at the SYC site in the COPO section.
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I was going to suggest the VHT logo, but looking closer at your picture the oval Looks similar, but I do not see the letters "VHT". I tried to look up the history of VHT to see if they were around our used this logo back then as well. Couldn't find a history that went back that far.
Just an FYI, this ebay ad for a Sperex VHT catalog shows the same logo was around in that early '70s era... https://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-CATALOG-BROCHURE-SPEREX-VHT-HIGH-PERFORMANCE-CHEMICAL-LINE-FOR-1972/382726577369?hash=item591c481cd9:g:WL8AAOSwstxU71pY:rk:6:pf:0
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Good resource. I didn't think to check eBay. I wonder if their track bite product was around back then
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Not a dedicated thread on this site - I have one over at the SYC site in the COPO section.
Ah, Rat's Nest - don't know how I didn't put that together sooner - I've been following that thread with much interest! Great car, congrats!
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Good resource. I didn't think to check eBay. I wonder if their track bite product was around back then
I don't recall what they called it, but I'm fairly certain that VHT sold a traction compound around 1970.. and earlier.
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So... just reviewing this whole thread, couple of unanswered questions back to the top.....
- anyone else think the steering wheel looks like an N34 simulated woodgrain wheel?
- any tips on carefully removing the second/current paint job from the doors and fenders to try and reveal the side panel color from the 1971 pictures?
The corvette guys stay away from chemicals when possible and many use razor blades to take off paint. I’d try that to take a layer off.
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Thanks Chick!
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Just realised today is the car's 50th birthday, according to the NCRS-supplied official production date!
Seems like a good opportunity to update this thread - will definitely be recreating the 1971 AHRA 'Fiasco' details. My daughter keeps asking me when it will be done, she loves cars as much as my son does..... going to have to hide the keys eventually.
Due to complicated inspection requirements on imported classic vehicles in my home state, the car will need to be generally to factory appearance to pass for first registration. But once legally on the road I will add the Day 2 goodies, vinyl wrap/race decals etc. and store the take-off parts. The hunt for correct vintage parts continues, but must give a big Thanks to Warren for picking up and forwarding a pair of Cragar front runners for me!
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Hey Tim, glad I could help out with the Cragars. Just checked on the package tracking and it shows it is in your country. That's going to be one nice Z/28 when finished.
- Warren
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Great story on your car...... I have always wondered where some of the cars I owned or bought came from.
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Thanks Bob - yes, if only they could talk......
Warren - saw that tracking update too. Funny, it often takes as long to move out from Sydney into the regional warehouse for final delivery, as it takes to get down here from the US. But getting close!
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How it all going with FIASCO Tim is it painted yet , still cant believe you have it Down Under awesome Ric.
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Thanks Ric. Have made some progress but still not yet ready for paint. Too many other things going on to devote much regular time to it for now, but still getting stuff done.
I did a small update in the last week to the thread over at Yenko.net, as I found the remains of a ‘Dyno Tuned by Fiasco Automotive’ decal on a quarter window, and now believe the lettering was sponsorship for that company, rather than the car’s name. Neat to find the link, and the original owner lived in the same part of L.A. (North Hollywood) that the Fiasco shop was in, so makes sense now.
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very cool update. Does that mean you may lean towards that fiasco paint theme?
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Definitely doing it per ‘71 scheme, i.e. photos at start of this thread.
Here’s the update, from post #12 on: https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=153095&page=2
I hesitated to post any more updates here, because going with a day 2 build rather than stock doesn’t seem to align with intent of the site. Thoughts?
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Well I haven't followed the Yenko thread, but I think The wild orange paint scheme with the decals and drag strip build would be awesome, even with the "Camaro" on the front spoiler. That is Camaro history to me. What a great car and story. Is that decal going to be reproduced and in one of your windows?
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I may have confused you Austin? Am planning to paint the original CS with black stripes, then apply black vinyl wrap (excellent suggestion by Warren) to make the side panels, and include the vintage race decals shown in the yenko.net thread. So car will look as close as possible to the Petersen Archive pictures, not in the ‘second’ sunburst red paint scheme that was partly still present when I bought it. It’ll mimic the AHRA Formula Stock version, not the NHRA E/MP version with mini tubs, hood scoop, etc. Hope that makes sense?
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I got it now, still cool with the throw back features of bitd. Your living the dream of having a 1 of a kind Camaro. wtg