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Camaro Research Group Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: booya420 on March 01, 2007, 03:16:10 AM
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i was just wondering if any one has an idea as to how many are still out there and what they might be worth
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Jerry Macneish would be the one to answer your questions. He maintains The Official 1967 Camaro Z/28 Registry. Here's a link to it:
http://www.z28camaro.com/registry.html
According to Jerry's book, The Definitive 1967-1968 Camaro Z/28 Fact Book (3rd edition), as of 1-1-2002, 170 1967 Z/28s have been located, documented, and accounted for. Although I'm sure it's more now (5+ years later). As far as price goes, I defer to Jerry again. I do know one just sold on Ebay without it's original drivetrain for $60,000.00 on a "Buy it Now" auction. Here it is:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=008&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=180088592935&rd=1&rd=1
Price is always relative to condition. ;)
Paul
P.S. Congratulations Zedder!
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I grew up in Macon, Missouri and I may be able to identify the owner of the car when it was in that area. I moved away a long time ago but I still have several gearhead friends in that area. I'm checking with them to see if my hunch is correct. Macon is a town of 5000 people that is farily isolated from any metropolitan area. A car like that would not go unnoticed.
c
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Thanks Paul!
CNorton, I have the name of the owner from Macon and have spoken with him on the phone a number of times. Where I am stuck with the history of the car is prior to 1976 when the car came to Topeka.
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194 in the national registry now with one pending verification.
Jerry
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jerry how many 68s have been verified
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Larry Eakin is running the 68 Z registry. Check with him.......1968 Z28.com. Also check with Kurt here. There are a bunch of 68 Zs in the CRG data base.
Jerry
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In the db:
275 68 Z's.
950 69 Z's.
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That's not many '68 Zs considering the size of the DB??
Jerry
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How does a Z/28 get into the registry? Or asked another way: how are the cars in the registry verified as authentic, not a fake?
Jimmy V.
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The cars, drive trains and trim tags are suppose to be inspected and verified as real and authentic before they are given the identity of a Z28.
Jerry
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Who was or is responsible for inspecting and verifing this informaton? Was there docurmentation that goes with the car when delivered to the dealer or customer? Is this the documentation you require to verify and enter a z28 into the registry?
dab67
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jerry this is jason, is my car in the data base now? sent downpayment on my engine, wanted to make sure he did not get rid of it before i could get there. bad weather out here, by be another month before i an get there.
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what should i look for to tell me the car is infact a z28 and not a clone
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Jason,
I added info and my report on your car the the CRG DB. Also have it in my personal DB.
I will be in your neck of the woods next week. Flying into Minn-St. Paul Wed morning, one car to certify in Blane, MN and then a flight out that evening for Rapid City, SD. Plan to see Mt. Rushmore while I'm there........I hope weather permitting.
In regards to the other question about 67 Zs, there is a 4L on the trim tag. The very early cars, first 17 or 18 have a 4P on the tag instead.
Jerry
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good luck, its nasty now-snow and 40mph winds.
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I hope it's sunny and 70 next week! I know it will be. Hey, it's March!
Jerry
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Who was or is responsible for inspecting and verifing this informaton? Was there docurmentation that goes with the car when delivered to the dealer or customer? Is this the documentation you require to verify and enter a z28 into the registry?
dab67
That's an interesting question to which I would love to hear an answer. Do cars that have an X code but lack all drive train components qaulify? How about LA cars that may have a correct engine but no codes? I realize there are a lot of things to look at that help determine the legitimacy of a car (Z/28 or SS or ??) but I'd be very curious to learn the criteria that the CRG uses to qualify a car's entry into the DB (Short of Jerry inspecting and vetting each entry).
Given the much larger number of '69 Z's produced I would expect to see more in the DB.
Please note, this is not to nit pick the CRG but rather to understand the process.
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That's not many '68 Zs considering the size of the DB??
No, it isn't.
The db has some distortions in it. One of them is that 68's (all) are underrepresented.
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Who was or is responsible for inspecting and verifing this informaton? Was there docurmentation that goes with the car when delivered to the dealer or customer? Is this the documentation you require to verify and enter a z28 into the registry?
dab67
That's an interesting question to which I would love to hear an answer. Do cars that have an X code but lack all drive train components qaulify? How about LA cars that may have a correct engine but no codes? I realize there are a lot of things to look at that help determine the legitimacy of a car (Z/28 or SS or ??) but I'd be very curious to learn the criteria that the CRG uses to qualify a car's entry into the DB (Short of Jerry inspecting and vetting each entry).
Given the much larger number of '69 Z's produced I would expect to see more in the DB.
Please note, this is not to nit pick the CRG but rather to understand the process.
We are talking apples and oranges here.
dab67's question asked about how cars get into the registry. I assume Jerry was anwering for the 67 Z registry. I'm not sure what is required for the 68 Z registry.
The database has no such requirements. It was designed from the beginning as a database for research, not a registry.
The lack of criteria is its strength. You pour in a lot of data, some of it good and some bad, and with enough data and the right analysis, you can discover new things.
If you only put in what you know is true, then it only tells you what you know. :)